Hardi Plank Gun?

Tommy V

Ok, this has probably been asked but.... recommendations on a good nail gun for 8" hardi plank or cement board? Thanks in advance
Tommy

vtgaetano

Well, it depends if how you nail it. If you "blind" nail it, I use a roofing gun with 1 3/4" nails. I have also blind nailed it with my trim/siding gun because in some applications it voids warranty if the fasteners don't go into the stud enough, like 1 1/4" I think, where the roofer isn't long enough. Anyhow all my guns are bostich so that would be my answer.

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maj

I have the Hitachi NV 65 AH. I also use it occasionally for sheathing.

It's a nice lightweight gun.

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vtgaetano

What is that a trim/siding gun?

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maj

Tommy was inquiring about a gun for fiber-cement siding. The Hitachi I mentioned is for fiber-cement siding, but can be used for other purposes. It is also ideal for Cedar siding & shakes. I have used it when nailing down 1/4" OSB over existing roofs with 1x boards. It doesn't handle thicker sheathing very well because of it's lighweight.

BTW, It uses a .090 diameter coilnail.

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Scott736

I dont do much hardi plank but I do know that the current trend is to make sure you get one specifically for hardi plank... meaning that rather than having a regular coil nailer you want one were the nails are held together by plastic..... I have seen pictures of huge apartment buildings were regular coils nailers were used and the metal rusts and runs down....hope this helps...

maj

It won't rust if you use galvanized nails !!!! The gun I mentioned IS FOR fiber-cement or Hardie plank, if that's what YOU want to call it. There is no specific gun strictly for James Hardie products. With the Hitachi I mentioned, it will take either plastic collated or wire collated coils. Just because the nails are not collated with plastic has no bearing on whether they will rust or not.The nail itself is what is rusting if they're not using galv. coilnails.

BTW, aren't they blind nailing? If they are, why would the nails be rusting? Just a thought.

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Scott736

I recently went to a a conference and seen pictures of what a typical coil nail MAY do after time....The nails maybe galvanized but it's not the nail that rusts ...it's the connector... If you dont believe me contact someone that sells it and ask if the warranty on your Hardi plank is valid if you use your roofing coil nailer were the nail is connected by metal...

maj

When did I say anything about a roofing nailer.

I KNOW the warranties are void, (not just James Hardie products) when using a roofing coilnailer. That's why I bought the Hitachi..... Sheeez.

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vtgaetano

That was me who said that about a roofing gun. I have been putting the stuff on since it came out, prolly before you were born. I don't need to go to a conference to know what you just learned. WTF. I have only ever blind nailed it, I would bet I used a coil or two of "uncoated" nails too. That is ridiculous, but keep up the good work.

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maj

LMAO...... I was trying to make that point to the young lad about the blind nailing, but it must have went over his head. I even PM'd him twice, but no responses.. Seems he just pop'd in here one nite and tried to change the world with his conference knowledge.

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Scott736

Wow thats pretty harsh.... Yes I am new and like this site alot.... As for not responding Maj I would think a vetaren like yourself would know that I cant respond cause I have made only 10 posts( Need 20 so it tells me) As for the pictures I saw it certainitly wasnt hung by me and yes it was all Blind Nailed....I dont do much fiber cement and I like it that way....So you think just because the nails are hidden under the panels no moisture would get to the nails huh? Well it doesnt really matter to me but if I ever hang Fiber cement again I know I wont use Nails collated with wire....

vtgaetano

BUT, will you know which gun to use????????? That was your question and I believe we both answered it.

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Scott736

wasnt my question

maj

My apologies Scott.... About the PM response. I didn't even pay attention or think about that possibilty..... My bad

As I said before, the Hitachi siding nailer I have WILL take plastic collated galvanized ring-shanked nails. I bought 3 boxes of plastic collated nails a couple of years ago for one job. What a pita!!! That plastic strip gets in the way, you have to tear it off about every ten nails. Then you have these hundreds of pieces of plastic to pick up at the end of the day. Just wasn't worth it to me. I switched back to GALVANIZED wire collated ring-shank nails. As I said in my PM, I have installed alot of fiber-cement siding and have never had a rusting complaint or problem.

I am curious what this conference was you are talking about. Was it strictly for fiber-cement installers? Or was it a conference for some other siding, and they were showing possible bad examples of fiber-cement. Or were they trying to sell something (such as tools or accessories)by making those claims??

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Scott736

It was held by salesmen for Acme siding here in MI... THey also had someone from the company who makes it and it was basically the does and donts to hanging fiber cement.. like I said I dont do much of it but it was free lunch

maj

Never heard of Acme, is it a brand or a siding distributor? Let me guess..... Vinyl siding distributor (wholesaler) who was bashing fiber-cement in order to sell his products?????

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Scott736

Was a siding distributer...They werent bashing fiber at all.. the also had someone from the company that makes it... But I think it was certainteed er somethin like that

jethro66

that hitachi is 750 canadian. roffers use that gun as well its the same gum but its the most expensive . the new rigid gun frome home dumpo is 250 dollers less and its a better gun try it , it has a better warrantty and its made in America!

mattp

I've got 40sq of siding to install most of it 2 story on a gable, dormer, or rake. I don't own a siding gun, I do have a bostich roofing gun. Should I just hand drive the nails or would it be worth the purchase to buy a gun. If so what gun do you recommend