Hardi Outside Corners

jumbo

I just got a blueprint yesterday and the specs call for james hardi, 7" reveal. The outside corners are to be weaved together (no outside corner posts). By theory it"s possible, but I was wondering if any of you have actually done this or not? My supplier said he has never seen any of his customers do it (they"re a very large supplier up here). Any help would be appreciated.

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Ranzan

I tried it once to see if it would work ...but 5/16 is not thick enough for a beveled corner

Patrick

NO WAY, you just cant do it with that type of material.

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Originally Posted by Celtic
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Tom Struble

ive seen it done like cedar shingles,no bevel,alternating butt joints

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loneframer

That would be the only feasable way in my opinion. I would also use I&W and 6x6 coil stock on the corners.

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Patrick

Yea but what does the exposed end look like after a few years?

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

jumbo

Thanks for the input everybody. I dont think it's something that can be done and guaranteed over the long run.

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Tom Struble

i havent seen what it looks like long term but in an exposed area i can only imagine

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Patrick

Im just thinking about how ****ty our cut ends look but they get hidden by the trim so its a non issue but here would be tricky, and unlike a cedar shake, you can just take a block plane to it to get it perfect.

You could always make aluminum corner caps to give you a nice imitation Masonite look

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

loneframer

That crossed my mind and kept right on going.

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Tom Struble

i think i still got a couple of hundred of those caps

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Patrick

Wish id known, ive always had to make em when needed

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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.

Tom Struble

thats probably why i havent scrapped them yet,the day after i do ill need them

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rojigga

Like tom mentioned it would be the same as the weaving with a hardie shingle. With what I've seen it's as good over time as any butt joint; therefor there is a caulking issue in regards to maintenance. There is noticeably more warping and expansion from comb face wood than hardie; moreover, the same amount of movement with typical hardie butt joints.

If this is something that really concerns you (from a maintenance standpoint, no corners with only affect install time) then I suggest discussing this with HO or super. The buliding I'm doing called for weaved shakes on print but this was overruled when talking to the HO. Just gently nudge in the direction YOU want!

Ps. Patrick- I have beveled hardie with success when doing strapping supported hardie band; 45's are a pain but a 22.5 degree is very easy.

kylemfk

LOL, this reminds me of a maibec job I sold. The installer was weaving corners even though the boards had a relief cut in the back.

Of course he did about 100 ft worth before he stopped. The GC called me (supplier) flipping out, "i have powerful friends, you'll be sorry. . etc lol!" How this was my fault I don't know but we suppliers tend to need thick skin. Tried to help, offered corners at discount, called rep etc to make sure warranty wouldn't be voided. Long story short, he hands me a bill for. . . are you ready. . . .$12000 to snap lines, cut siding, install corners, caulk and demands it be paid because I didn't warn him of this. I called the installer who showed me his extimate of like $1500. I told the GC to go F1 himself, the one and only time I've ever done it.

Tom Struble

Kyle are you in cedarknolls?

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jumbo

Just to give an update. Upon going over print, I realized they were calling for Hardi ARTISAN lap siding which I found out is weavable. The panels are 3/4" thick. Has anyone used this panel before? Pics?

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Tom Struble

weaving is different than mitering

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kylemfk

no that's not me but close, I'm in Chatham.

kylemfk

shipped a small job of this, it is very sharp, but no prefinished product. I looked into having a finisher pre stain it for me, but according to Hardie the tolerance on the T+G is too low to add 3 layers of finish.