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Sophisticated Siding Guy.
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Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
I've got a job that requires vinyl being installed on metal studs.
Anyone recommend a screw? |
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President
Trade: Installing windows, siding, roofing, doors, patio rooms, gutters and shutters.
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
Use a self tapping pan head screw. Make shore you get extra labor.
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Sophisticated Siding Guy.
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
I saw somewhere once where there was a screw specially designed for this.
Common sense tells me I need something self tapping with a pan head. Thanks for your response though. There has got to be a screw made just for this application. |
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
what about strapping the walls first with 1x? then nailing the siding
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Sophisticated Siding Guy.
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
The problem with that is dealing with all the different windows and bump outs. Also it's a commercial project so I don't really get to start getting into all that stuff.
I didn't realize when I bid this it was steel studs. Not that big of deal because it's only like 10 sq. on the back of a store. Just got get something to fasten it with before I can start. I'm set up to hang fiber cement on steel studs all day. So i know what i'm dealing with just never had to hang vinyl on steel before. I'm just needing a screw plain and simple. |
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DavidC
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
You need to make sure your panheads are at least as large as the roofing nail head or larger, 3/8" I think, or add washers.
Hey, what about those fancy rare earth magnets? Just lock your panel and toss one near each stud, yeah that's the ticket. :>) Good Luck Dave
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Siding Windows Doors
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
Vinyl siding should not be attached to studs without a layer of solid sheeting between the siding and the stud.
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
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Sophisticated Siding Guy.
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.Quote:
Keeping that in mind there is still a steel stud on the other side of substrate that it needs to fasten end too. You do know that you have to fasten to the studs right? From your reply I take either you think I'm a rookie to this game or you attach to substrate? Chris the problem with those screws is they don't have the proper coating. The heads will rust off. I just figured someone here might have hung vinyl on a steel framed building. I guess I'm a pioneer. I ended up finding what I needed online. Thanks anyway. Last edited by thesidingpro; 10-31-2008 at 06:58 PM. |
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DavidC
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
Care to share what you found? Or will you take your ball and go home?
Good Luck Dave
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.Quote:
We use 1.5 x #6 stainless tec screw with large pan head in a square drive to attach both sheeting and siding to steel studs. |
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
Does anyone know of some good online resources for siding installation information ?
MarkC __________________ Replacement Window Company, Siding Contractors and Philadelphia Window and Door Company |
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
id try to find a low profile hex head tec screw metal roof accesorry supplier be a good place to check
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
How can you possibly make money installing screws for vinyl siding? Time killer is an understatment. The designer must not have designed the building for vinyl and now the builder wants to cut a cost by using vinyl. There has to be money there for strapping. On another note I would hunt down some ring shank nails with a large head and try those. Let us know what you come up with.......
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
its tuff to get used to but once you get goin the screws work ok
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
"Chris the problem with those screws is they don't have the proper coating. The heads will rust off."
Sorry, but I don't see that happening with those screws. They're galvanized and hold up well when exposed to weather, unless the building is near a coastal area. |
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Re: Hanging Vinyl Siding On Steel Studs.
i did a comercial job using wolverine millenium the siding with thesuspension cable nailing hem and i had to put a washer under every screw or it would twist the cables out of shape i had a guy just loading washers on screws
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