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Old 10-30-2009, 09:34 AM   #1
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efficiency in Siding....

I have always wondered this....

How do you guys run your sites?
I like to run mine like an assembly line one thing after the other... get ALL the papering done move on to next step so on and so on
but it seems like alot of the other company`s do some of this some of that then have to come back to the same wall to finish what they started... seems very chaotic to me to run a site like that

all my guys are payed piece work and most others pay by the hour? maybe the difference? I don`t know

We will frame, hang doors, pull a window if its bad just to keep going.
no not extensive work but if it needs to get done to continue we do it
does anyone else do this as well?

all the guys that work for me do top quality work and take alot of pride in it. and they get payed accordingly for it plus some extra`s sometimes for keeping a high standard

I seem to notice a very low motivation in other company`s

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Old Today, 12:22 PM   #2
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Your system sounds efficient but in my world there are too many variables such as wind/weather. As soon as our hot summer sun starts bearing down on my wall I finish out the day on a shady wall. And visa versa in the winter months.
Another scenario....its winter time and I am midway up a wall with a hip roof. In another hour the sun will hit the six inches of snow on the roof and turn it into ice water drizzling over everything below. Do I finish the wall or go work on the gable wall till I can stay dry for the few hours it would take to finish the hip wall?
Just my two cents worth.
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I always work a crew like this:
3 or 4 man crew

Rip all the siding and get the line around the complete home.

Now set one guy on the brake pre bending everything in double or triple lengths for windows with a scribe at the 1/2 or 1/3 points. I.E. with windows; Three sills and headers, two sides in one length.

One guy as a cut man keeping all lefts and rights on the left and right of the cutting table. His back to the wall so he doesn't have to walk around the table and step on the cuts on either side of the table. Table is set on the corner so he can see both walls running.

As the cut man your job is to keep the wall men supplied and stay ahead of them. The brake mans job is the same. If they have to ask for something you're to slow. Mass cut everything. 4-6 soffits at a time all the between cuts at once (stack the pieces) Make them give you measurements you know you're going to need like inbetween windows, when the hand a starter piece make them give you the finish measurment before the start nailing the piece on. Keep all accesories in arms reach. when the wall men are to busy for you your job is to:

1 clean up. OR
2.start the next wall

A good cut man will keep two men busy and at the end iof the day, the next wall is started and the entre job is cleaned up. All the wall men have to do is move scaffolding and go home.

We can do a raised ranch in two - three days this way.
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I always work a crew like this:
3 or 4 man crew

Rip all the siding and get the line around the complete home.

Now set one guy on the brake pre bending everything in double or triple lengths for windows with a scribe at the 1/2 or 1/3 points. I.E. with windows; Three sills and headers, two sides in one length.

One guy as a cut man keeping all lefts and rights on the left and right of the cutting table. His back to the wall so he doesn't have to walk around the table and step on the cuts on either side of the table. Table is set on the corner so he can see both walls running.

As the cut man your job is to keep the wall men supplied and stay ahead of them. The brake mans job is the same. If they have to ask for something you're to slow. Mass cut everything. 4-6 soffits at a time all the between cuts at once (stack the pieces) Make them give you measurements you know you're going to need like inbetween windows, when the hand a starter piece make them give you the finish measurment before the start nailing the piece on. Keep all accesories in arms reach. when the wall men are to busy for you your job is to:

1 clean up. OR
2.start the next wall

A good cut man will keep two men busy and at the end iof the day, the next wall is started and the entre job is cleaned up. All the wall men have to do is move scaffolding and go home.

We can do a raised ranch in two - three days this way.
Shoot what takes them so long?

If you aren't hanking 9 square a day, with trim, you need new men!
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Shoot what takes them so long?

If you aren't hanking 9 square a day, with trim, you need new men!

Most ranches are 20+
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[quote=buddy110;813007]Most ranches are 20+[/quote

With 3 guys that's one day
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Most ranches are 20+[/quote

With 3 guys that's one day
Well alrightythen
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