Door sweep puzzle... - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

mdshunk · 02-16-2009, 08:13 PM

I have to put a sweep on the bottom of my one door leading out of the foyer. Door opening presently has no threshold, and I will not install one. When I put a sweep on the bottom of the door, I can only open it part way because the floor is slightly higher as the door swings open, and the sweep gets tight on the floor. What are my options here, short of installing a threahold?

Patrick · 02-16-2009, 08:17 PM

This should do the trick you can get them under a different brand at TrueValue too, just go where they have the door sweeps and look for the one thats the most expensive

http://www.amazon.com/36-Residential.../dp/B000KZV1X0

**Leo G** · 02-16-2009, 08:23 PM

As seen on TV Bwaaa ha ha ha hahaaaaa

http://www.asseenontv.com/prod-pages/tdrft_ontv.html

**loneframer** · 02-16-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mdshunk

I have to put a sweep on the bottom of my one door leading out of the foyer. Door opening presently has no threshold, and I will not install one. When I put a sweep on the bottom of the door, I can only open it part way because the floor is slightly higher as the door swings open, and the sweep gets tight on the floor. What are my options here, short of installing a threahold?

Lean the top of the door frame out slightly, and pull the bottom in slightly, so that when the door opens it stays parallel to the floor. You can do it with hinge leaf placement too, but youll have to move the stops. This is hard to do if the jambs and stops are manufactured as one piece. If you lean the jamb out make sure the latch side stays parallel. It's an option.

mdshunk · 02-16-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by loneframer

Lean the top of the door frame out slightly, and pull the bottom in slightly, so that when the door opens it stays parallel to the floor. You can do it with hinge leaf placement too, but youll have to move the stops. This is hard to do if the jambs and stops are manufactured as one piece. If you lean the jamb out make sure the latch side stays parallel. It's an option.

oooooo... that's a neat idea. Wouldn't take much 'lean' over an 80" door to give a pretty dramatic rise in the opening sweep. I have a little bit of play between the slab and the stops, so I might just fill in the hinge screw holes, redrill them, and knife a little sliver out of the hinge mortise and see how that hashes out. Thanks.

**Leo G** · 02-16-2009, 08:30 PM

Use a nylon brush type sweep.

TRC · 02-21-2009, 06:54 PM

Three things about leaning the door: 1. Your door could become hinge-bound. 2. You'll also have to putty the bottom mortise because it will have to moved out. 3. When the door is closed the slab will not be flush with the jamb up and down. I don't think Leaning the frame is a good idea either. If your talking about a very small distance then forget everything i said

**loneframer** · 02-21-2009, 10:51 PM

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Three things about leaning the door: 1. Your door could become hinge-bound. 2. You'll also have to putty the bottom mortise because it will have to moved out. 3. When the door is closed the slab will not be flush with the jamb up and down. I don't think Leaning the frame is a good idea either. If your talking about a very small distance then forget everything i said

A true craftsman takes an imperfect world and and makes it LOOK perfect

cleveman · 02-21-2009, 11:32 PM

You know there is some funky door sealer that drops down as the door closes and does the opposite as the door opens. It has been around for at least 20 years. They are used on pig buildings here to seal them up.

I don't know where to tell you to find them, however. I think the mechanism is actuated by the hinges somehow.

MALCO.New.York · 02-22-2009, 12:15 AM

Floating Sweep.

Seal-O-Matic.

jaros bros. · 02-22-2009, 08:17 AM

You're referring to a drop down seal. Check out www.pemko.com. They have a ton of options for just about every door application you can think of.

TRC · 02-22-2009, 10:14 AM

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A true craftsman takes an imperfect world and and makes it LOOK perfect

What do you mean? Are you implying that some walls may not be plumb?? Naah, you must be kidding....almost had me though.

**loneframer** · 02-22-2009, 10:22 AM

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What do you mean? Are you implying that some walls may not be plumb?? Naah, you must be kidding....almost had me though.

That is why I like trimming the houses I frame myself, not to say I'm perfect because I'm not, but I dont get the surprises I would get following someone else, Like shoe plates that never get nailed down. Although that does make it easy to set the stops.

TRC · 02-22-2009, 10:27 AM

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That is why I like trimming the houses I frame myself, not to say I'm perfect because I'm not, but I dont get the surprises I would get following someone else, Like shoe plates that never get nailed down. Although that does make it easy to set the stops.

See I like that, your looking at the bright side. Mmmm...adjustable walls.

**loneframer** · 02-22-2009, 10:46 AM

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See I like that, your looking at the bright side. Mmmm...adjustable walls.

I always like it when you have a load bearing wall with a large door opening in it and one side bears on plywood in the center of a bay, the other on the joist lap. I personally do punchout at the end of the day and add bearing blocks under all point loads.Most''PROS" don't even know what that means.

**Leo G** · 02-22-2009, 10:49 AM

Is that like muffler bearings?

**loneframer** · 02-22-2009, 10:57 AM

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Is that like muffler bearings?

Exactly. And my ad said carpenters, not car painters.

**Leo G** · 02-22-2009, 10:59 AM

That reminds me of a joke.

This Carp enters a bar......

**loneframer** · 02-22-2009, 11:08 AM

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That reminds me of a joke.

This Carp enters a bar......

and sets a little tiny piano on the bar along with a foot tall man. Bartender asks " where did you get that?" The guy pulls a lamp out and replies "rubbed this thing and a genie gave me one wish" Bartender grabs the lamp and rubs. Genie says " I will grant you one wish" Bartender says "I wish for a million bucks" Poof! There is a million ducks in the bar. First guy says "yeah, and I asked for a twelve inch pianist right?