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05-04-2008, 03:10 AM
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Think it Draw it Build it
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WA STATE GC Specialized in Structural Framing
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Location: Lynden, Washington
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Custom Home - Window Install?
Is this the right way to install a new window in a custom home?
Oh, and the sign on the street says, Built Green.
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Think it. Draw it. Build it.
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars..
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05-04-2008, 08:05 AM
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Pro
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General/Remodeling
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That was an interesting photo album. I see why you couldn't resist taking pictures.
Mike
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05-04-2008, 08:12 AM
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Remodeling contractor
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It's awful what's out there............"Built Baby Poop Green" maybe
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Remodeler in Maine & Vermont
Finish carpenter
Been doin' this stuff for a long time.................
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05-04-2008, 10:34 AM
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The Duke
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Framing, Custom Carpentry, Architectural Design
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Maine
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I'd like to know the reason why the downspout drains are inside of the front porch by the front door.
I never once put ice and water around windows while I was out there. No one asked for it. No tyvek either, just building paper applied by the siders.
And there's my bird blocks. Million dollar homes and bird blocks. I stopped wondering why after about a year. Hope that's OK to link to your pics Mike.
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one will meet with a success unexpected in common hours
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05-04-2008, 11:33 AM
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Siding, Windows, Seamless Gutters, Metal Roofing
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http://picasaweb.google.com/wallmaxx...30756390606850
WTF is that little architectural detail? Sad part is the HO's dont know better and probably think it looks wonderful. The only thing wrong with the windows is that they are from home depot.
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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.
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05-04-2008, 02:23 PM
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Sophisticated Siding Guy.
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Siding and Trim Specialist
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That is a pretty insane detail there....
Notice that they put the corner trim on first and then put wrb on between it?
That house is horrible. Stuff like that just pisses me off....
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05-04-2008, 03:04 PM
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Pro
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oh yea, and BTW, wheres the roof?
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Originally Posted by Celtic
Like I said...I'm sure you are very good at what you do ~ whatever that is and where ever it happens.
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05-04-2008, 03:10 PM
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Think it Draw it Build it
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WA STATE GC Specialized in Structural Framing
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lynden, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by framerman
And there's my bird blocks. Million dollar homes and bird blocks. I stopped wondering why after about a year.
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I never knew such a thing still existed. In Houston, bird blocks were only found on the oldest of homes...60 yrs or beyond. Everything there is now flat / closed soffit. I move up here and the home styles are out of the 40s and 50s. I think it is a direct reflection of the power of the truss companies here. They keep the framers "simple" so it becomes the way it is.
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Think it. Draw it. Build it.
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars..
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05-05-2008, 06:39 PM
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my own boss
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carpenter
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you were taking pictures to show how NOT to frame right?
if this is a custom home, i'd hate to see the jackleg work thats done on tract housing.
for instance is the front beam on the porch, its just hanging there, for all that, it could've been built out of plywood.
as far as the windows, if you dont put the tape over the window, why bother.
other than that.
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i only work off drawings
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05-05-2008, 10:28 PM
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Cabinetmaker
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curious, what are you doing over the top of the windows? I dont know if right or wrong but I run IC&W across top also, then tyvek,typar or 30# felt on the building.
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05-07-2008, 12:48 PM
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my own boss
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carpenter
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sorry, the picture just shows plywood.
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i only work off drawings
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05-07-2008, 06:07 PM
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Siding Windows Doors
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Exteriors
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Location: Central Washington
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If this house is passing inspection then why do you care ? It looks like another $700,000+ home going up providing jobs and commisions. You can put it down all you want but unless you have a vested intrest in this house why would you spout off about it ?
Last edited by easy sider; 05-07-2008 at 06:11 PM.
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05-07-2008, 08:04 PM
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Member
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exterior remodelling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easy sider
If this house is passing inspection then why do you care ? It looks like another $700,000+ home going up providing jobs and commisions. You can put it down all you want but unless you have a vested intrest in this house why would you spout off about it ?
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McMansions.
The quality of construction is so bad we end up replacing windows,doors and some siding in 5+ yrs.
Tract homes here are worse.
I care because every truck and ladder guy or illegal undercuts the real contractors pricing.
How?Lousy workmanship and low quality materials and when there's trouble we're the guys who get called in to fix it.Why?Because the hacks have moved on to other endevors or State.
Then we get the irate HO who believes we're just going to shaft them as well.
Unscrupulous builders and unknowing uneducated(in the products going into their home)buyers hurt the business for all us legitimate tradesmen.
On the upside.The tough market will allow the cream to rise again.This is my third <cough>recession and I will not let hacks take away the pride and care I put in my work or my crew;s.
And my crew know they will be gone if they cut corners.
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05-08-2008, 01:54 AM
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Siding Windows Doors
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Exteriors
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shoemaker
McMansions.
The quality of construction is so bad we end up replacing windows,doors and some siding in 5+ yrs.
Tract homes here are worse.
I care because every truck and ladder guy or illegal undercuts the real contractors pricing.
How?Lousy workmanship and low quality materials and when there's trouble we're the guys who get called in to fix it.Why?Because the hacks have moved on to other endevors or State.
Then we get the irate HO who believes we're just going to shaft them as well.
Unscrupulous builders and unknowing uneducated(in the products going into their home)buyers hurt the business for all us legitimate tradesmen.
On the upside.The tough market will allow the cream to rise again.This is my third <cough>recession and I will not let hacks take away the pride and care I put in my work or my crew;s.
And my crew know they will be gone if they cut corners.
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If this is passing inspection schedules by the building dept how is it wrong. Replacing screw ups is another commision and more paying jobs in my opinion.
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05-08-2008, 05:43 AM
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exterior remodelling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easy sider
If this is passing inspection schedules by the building dept how is it wrong. Replacing screw ups is another commision and more paying jobs in my opinion.
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I won't argue that point,but that kind of scenario just increases disdain for general contractors and contracting is in my blood.
My Father,my Grandfather,and there is one thing that was passed on to me that I try to live by "If you won't do it on your home,don't do it on your customers home"
An inspector here seems to miss the window installation here where framing crews putting up new windows use only four 1" button cap nails per window and apply tape.
My guys have to finish the nailing if the drywallers haven't already boarded the home and pushed the nailer out past the OSB.
It just pi$$es me off when I see crap work for no other reason than laziness or lack of care.
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05-08-2008, 05:54 AM
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Member
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exterior remodelling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easy sider
If this is passing inspection schedules by the building dept how is it wrong. Replacing screw ups is another commision and more paying jobs in my opinion.
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Question for you.
Are you getting the rates you think you should be getting or are you cutting prices to stay in business?
I'd rather get better rates for quality materials and work than having to lower prices and hence my bottom line to stay busy.
Last year my costs rose and number of jobs increased but my gross and net decreased.
At what point do you say "I can't make a decent living at this"?
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05-08-2008, 10:12 AM
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Siding Windows Doors
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Exteriors
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Occasionally we buy a job to keep people working. I have been around since 1979 and have experienced a few burps in the economy. Our costs have increased many times over the years and the price for a job will continue to reflect the cost of the job with a few exceptions. It does seem like costs have increased at a fast pace the last few years and most likely will continue that trend.
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06-10-2008, 09:23 PM
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Registered User
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general/remodel
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: bow,WA usa
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the sad part is that these holes take our jobs and drive down our wage!!! im having trouble making the hourly rate i made 5 years ago, because any d!ckhe@d can be a "carpenter"! whatever im just glad that thanks to these fool ill always have a career as a remodeler  !
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06-10-2008, 09:42 PM
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Dream Maker
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residential construction
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Location: Beulah, Michigan
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i don't feel that is good on any house.
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