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10-28-2007, 03:02 PM
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board and batten siding
We typically do either vinyl and other types of siding.
Have a quote to give on 40 square of board/batten siding. I'm a little in the dark as to how long this stuff may take to put on so need some input on man hours.
New construction two story, big house.
122 sheets (about 40 sq) 3/8" AC fir plywood with battens every 16", up corners, and along top. That's about 3000' of battens rough guess.
Also have to install 2x6 rough sawn lumber around 27 windows and 6 doors and garage door.
So you siding experts that have put on similar what kind of hours are we looking at average per square?
What should we use for fasteners on this stuff? siding, battens, cedar 2x6.
Also have 200' soffit where you mount a piece 3/8", install pc vent strip, then install other pc soffit 3/8". Each pc cut to fit. Sounds time consuming, more so than alum or vinyl pieces.
Thanks, 
Dave
Last edited by Home Serve; 10-28-2007 at 03:56 PM.
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10-28-2007, 05:58 PM
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Hire a carpenter, it would save you more $$. It's hard to even suggest to you how much additional labor calculation to add, because we don't know if your crew is capable.
If you've never done it yourself call out a professional to do it for you.
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10-28-2007, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aWorkaHolic
Hire a carpenter, it would save you more $$. It's hard to even suggest to you how much additional labor calculation to add, because we don't know if your crew is capable.
If you've never done it yourself call out a professional to do it for you.
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thanks workaholic but that's not in the cards, we need to do it ourselves, it gets pretty short on work around here in the winter and this kind of siding can be put on in winter unlike vinyl. My son and I are perfectly capable of doing it, just wanting feedback from guys who have done it often and or recently. Hard to get a handle on things that you don't do very much if you know what I mean.
go get it,
Dave
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10-28-2007, 07:42 PM
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1.Add a couple of days plus material and markup to your quote.
or
2.Charge per linear ft. or Sq ft.
If you think about it, all your doing is re-framing the outside to accommodate new siding. Only you know how long it will take you and your son to do it.
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10-28-2007, 07:57 PM
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Can't begin to help you on time. We did that like late 70's early 80's. What I can tell you is that I used 5/8" R/S fir, other builders around us then were using 3/8, and there just isn't enough meat to hold the nails if you don't hit studs every time. They'll stay til you leave, but that's about it.
That said, we used 8d galv. box for the ply, and 7d galv ring on the battens. 10d box galv ring on frieze and picture frames, 4d galv. box for soffit.
Back then guys would walk across the street from another job to watch if someone was using a nail gun!
You'll want to pay attention to the sheathing, lay out your first sheet to break 1 stud short of the first sheathing break (don't leave the 4' level at home), and hope the framers were good to ya! 
BTW Where the heck are you? Some place that has winter I guess. Stick it in your tag!
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Last edited by neolitic; 10-28-2007 at 08:00 PM.
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10-28-2007, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neolitic
Can't begin to help you on time. We did that like late 70's early 80's. What I can tell you is that I used 5/8" R/S fir, other builders around us then were using 3/8, and there just isn't enough meat to hold the nails if you don't hit studs every time. They'll stay til you leave, but that's about it.
That said, we used 8d galv. box for the ply, and 7d galv ring on the battens. 10d box galv ring on frieze and picture frames, 4d galv. box for soffit.
Back then guys would walk across the street from another job to watch if someone was using a nail gun!
You'll want to pay attention to the sheathing, lay out your first sheet to break 1 stud short of the first sheathing break (don't leave the 4' level at home), and hope the framers were good to ya! 
BTW Where the heck are you? Some place that has winter I guess. Stick it in your tag!
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Hey Neolitic,
Central MO near Boonville, Missouri River, Daniel Boone territory here. We did get a winter last year and the root cellar got pretty darn low by spring work time. Yeah, I put it on in the 80's too, it's been a long time. I was trying to remember how far apart we put the battens, I'm thinking it was 12" but I'm going to quote this job at 16" the cedar has gone up so much around here. We hand nailed it as I remember, boss man wouldn't allow guns except for framing. We are going to put 2x6 rough sawn around 35 windows and doors also. Big job for us. Thanks for the tips! 
Dave
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10-28-2007, 09:29 PM
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Curmudgeon
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Originally Posted by Home Serve
Hey Neolitic,
Central MO near Boonville, Missouri River, Daniel Boone territory here. We did get a winter last year and the root cellar got pretty darn low by spring work time. Yeah, I put it on in the 80's too, it's been a long time. I was trying to remember how far apart we put the battens, I'm thinking it was 12" but I'm going to quote this job at 16" the cedar has gone up so much around here. We hand nailed it as I remember, boss man wouldn't allow guns except for framing. We are going to put 2x6 rough sawn around 35 windows and doors also. Big job for us. Thanks for the tips! 
Dave
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I read 1X6 'stead of 2X6!
Drag out the 16 box galvies!
12oc is what they were for sure, I thought you were lucking out with the 16oc---at least the chance to hit a stud!
Glad to meet you.
Dan'el didn't spend a lot of time 'round here, but brother Squire Boone had quite a going concern down on the river.
You ought to stick the Booneville in your "tag", let everyone know.
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