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05-28-2008, 07:11 AM
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Steve
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Back cutting Hardie corner boards
Has anyone done a rabbit cut on the Hardie corner boards to overlap the lap siding? Also, with the Colorplus siding, has anybody end-caulked the siding, then slid up to the next piece and wiped off before removing the plastic?
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05-28-2008, 08:01 AM
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Steve
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I'm thinking of doing the same (backcutting) for the frieze board
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05-28-2008, 06:20 PM
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Steve
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Has anyone done something similiar with their installs?
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05-28-2008, 07:22 PM
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Steve
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Hello? Is this thing on?
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05-28-2008, 09:43 PM
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New Guy
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siding soffit hardie Tampa Fl
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why? it you want the look of a neat corner just put the corners on first before the siding , however you will propably have to build out the corner boards, i use a ripped pc. of siding , i'm getting away from corners first
hardie says you can do it both ways
as far as end caulk, i don't i have enough to do at one time just getting siding on , do all caulk last
Last edited by brutis; 05-28-2008 at 09:45 PM.
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05-28-2008, 10:13 PM
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Sophisticated Siding Guy.
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If you rabit a pocket into it you still have to caulk the corner. Otherwise it won't be water tight.
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05-29-2008, 01:29 AM
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Siding Windows Doors
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Follow the directions in your install instructions and use the proper accessories to do a nice job. Use lots of caulk.
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05-29-2008, 04:44 AM
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Pro
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If you cut it that way and don't caulk it, you will def. end up with moisture issues in your region.
Cold weather regions, general installation is to butt the siding to the corner and trim boards, and caulk.
Why would you want to cut a rabbet in it, and then caulk it, unless you have nothing else better to do with your time (because it would accomplish nothing) ?
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05-29-2008, 06:15 AM
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Steve
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I was thinking about doing it this way at the frieze to cover the top row's nails. As far as the corners go, the customer wants matching colour cornerboards. HD, the supplier here in Ottawa says 1 month for standard Hardie colour siding but the trim boards don't have the matching siding colour as standard. That makes it 2 months on the trim boards to be delivered.
I thought I could go long on the siding and cover when the trim boards get delivered. I always intended to caulk the corners. Maybe I'll just wait for everything to be delivered.
Has anyone applied caulking to the ends of the siding to help conceal the joint? (from one piece to the next)
Thanks for your input.
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05-29-2008, 06:59 AM
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Sophisticated Siding Guy.
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You don't want to caulk the field joints unless it's primed. No matter what you need to flash behind the seems with a piece of trim coil.
You might be better off just using primed corners and having them painted once installed to match your siding.
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05-29-2008, 07:07 AM
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Steve
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Ya, I suppose I could just colour-match the siding once it's delivered and paint the corner boards myself. I'm getting the colour matched caulking and touch up kit as well. Have you used pieces of housewrap for your flashing behind joints?
As far as the field joints go, I figured caulking the ends would leave a more discrete joint.
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05-31-2008, 11:00 AM
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Pro
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Supply
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versatex makes a stealth system trim product which is very nice.
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06-03-2008, 11:40 PM
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Registered User
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We've butted the prepainted hardie with "quad" caulking on it and it is very discrete if done neatly. As far as the corner or trim boards go, I don't like the hardie product and use the smart trim, its more durable to damage and is easier to use. It is also in longer lengths which means fewer joints, and the joints can be scarfed and glued for a better look, but definitely flash behind the field joints so any water runs back to the siding surface on the course below like the siding pro says.
Last edited by aikenback; 06-03-2008 at 11:46 PM.
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