My Grandfather Left Me This....

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My Grandfather was an electrician starting in the early 1900's. He passed away in 1986 at the age of 96 and left me this relic from the K&T days.

It still has solder in it.

KillerToiletSpider

I still use one of those on a regular basis.

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mickeyco

I was going to say I think you have a lead ladle for cast iron pipe, I have the same one and the kerosene fueled heating pot for it.

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220/221

Ah....that could be as he was also a plumber/general contractor.

A W Smith

did he leave you any caulking irons? or that asbestos rope joint clamp to pour lead into a horizontal cast iron hub?

Magnettica

I'm not sure I follow as I have never done any soldering.

Did they have to carry one of those around for each splice they had to make?

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neolitic

Killer--
What is the name of the rope dam thing--I mean the thing you use to dam-up the lead when you pour into the hub.
I think I've still got @15-20 pig of lead --somewhere.

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mickeyco

The rope with the clamp and chain is called a joint runner, there is also an inside and outside iron for tamping the lead after it's cooled, oakum is the stuff you pack in before the pouring the lead. I've got the hole set but haven't used in over 20 years, but I'm hanging on to it just in case.

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220/221

I assume that they twisted all their joints and dipped them in the ladel then went back and taped them.

mdshunk

That's exactly right. Matter of fact, the guy I apprenticed under still did that on certain jobs. I feel lucky to have observed some of those old-school mehtods. The running taps he used a "soldering copper", which was basicly a chunk of copper on the end of a wooden stick, that was heated in the torch flame for a spell. You can't really dip a running tap.

747

Back in the day plumbers when installing a toliet flange would rap in hemp then pour lead. I think that tool could be used for that. That type of flange has to be carefully chiseled out to replace.

220/221

I have seen quite a few plumbers using hemp

jmic

Oakum

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KillerToiletSpider

Actually, it is called a running rope, it is made of of glass reinforced nylon, I have them in all sizes up to 15". A joint runner is the same type tool, but is is made out of rubber with a metal pour gate and clamp on it. Unlike a running rope, a joint runner is size specific, you need a different one for every size pipe, and they don't make them larger than 8".

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KillerToiletSpider

We still install them that way.

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Teetorbilt

I remember all of this quite well. We were still doing it on larger (6"+) iron pipe in the 70's.

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neolitic

Thanks--trying to remember something like that is almost as bad as having a Barry Manilow song stuck in your head----Almost!

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mickeyco

Actually, it is called a joint runner, the older ones were made of asbestos, the newer ones are made of some type of rope and you can get them in all types of sizes.



http://www.blackbookoftools.com/Prod...roductID=88727

http://www.fwwebb.com/pdf/2003pasco/pas_c-26.pdf

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firemike

I also remember using them as a kid helping my grandfather with the cast iron piping. (I rememebr getting bitched at more than once for using sand that was to wet to pack the horizontal joints.) Brought back some great memories...

The one he had for electrical connections was on a swivel so when you moved it up or down to solder the wire, the pot would stay level.

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