interesting wiring for an attic pullchain - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Magnettica · 05-10-2008, 12:49 AM

FRONT

BACK:

pudge565 · 05-10-2008, 02:27 PM

aw who needs a box.

JohnJ0906 · 05-10-2008, 02:28 PM

"Boxes.... We don't need no stinkin' boxes!"

mdshunk · 05-10-2008, 02:35 PM

It works, doesn't it? What's the problem?

It's been that way for 20 years and we havn't had any problems with it.

JohnJ0906 · 05-10-2008, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdshunk

It works, doesn't it? What's the problem?

It's been that way for 20 years and we havn't had any problems with it.

I wonder how many times we have all heard THAT one....

cmec · 05-10-2008, 03:03 PM

Been workin for 50 years ,what do you mean ive got code violations, Nothing wrong with nailin thru an old work box either

cmec · 05-10-2008, 03:10 PM

Problems with murray mains ,get outa here,That fuse box is accessable

cmec · 05-10-2008, 03:15 PM

6 inches of swingin -----

Magnettica · 05-10-2008, 07:35 PM

Geeze.... the main fuse panel with an oil heat tank directly in front of it.

Gee, no fire hazard there huh guys?

cmec · 05-10-2008, 07:47 PM

Oil has a low flashpoint

mdshunk · 05-10-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmec

Oil has a low flashpoint

That's true, but it's still a dumb place for a panel. I'm sure that tank came after the panel was installed. I actually run into that quite a bit (tank in front of panel). The old houses in my area were heated with coal, and the coal furnaces were often replaced with oil furnaces or had oil conversions. For some reason, the furnace men favored putting the tank right in the way of the panel many times.

jrclen · 05-10-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdshunk

For some reason, the furnace men favored putting the tank right in the way of the panel many times.

It was a nice clear space with nothing in the way of placing the tank.

jrclen · 05-10-2008, 08:26 PM

By cutting off some of the strands, the wires all fit in the lugs.

cmec · 05-10-2008, 08:32 PM

I didnt see any coal shoots into the basement looks like it has the origonal furnace and the oil tanks in front of the panel , the flying splices with tape and solder seem to be common after ww 2 , Had an old plumber tell me if you saw all differnt kind of fittings in plumbing or splices in wiring it was because of material rationing they used anything they could get.

Needless to say none of the things in the pictures is there any more.

cmec · 05-10-2008, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrclen

By cutting off some of the strands, the wires all fit in the lugs.

Remindes me of the old walters key tap , before 1 wire per lug. Still a lot of them out there and working, I use to buy the u conector only they were way cheeper than split bolts.

woodchuck2 · 05-10-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrclen

By cutting off some of the strands, the wires all fit in the lugs.

WTF!! Where are the wires going or coming from at the upper right, where are the straps for the conduit, no bushing on the nipple for the load side circuit, who inspected that anyway?

jrclen · 05-11-2008, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodchuck2

WTF!! Where are the wires going or coming from at the upper right, where are the straps for the conduit, no bushing on the nipple for the load side circuit, who inspected that anyway?

I was there to install a new service. The upper right wires are the new feeder to the house. Back a couple years ago we had no inspections around here. The ENT to the left was added by just pulling the meter without notifying the POCO. That feeder ran to the outbuilding in the background with no OCP at either end. Originally it was a mobile home service. The POCO wanted $1500 to install a new lateral to a meter can on the new house. The HO cheaped out by doing it this way, and lost a few hundred in the bargain when the POCO insisted on a meter/main to protect the 80 foot feeder.

woodchuck2 · 05-11-2008, 07:09 PM

Typical of a HO, step over a dollar to pick up a dime. I always call the planner first before i do anything for anyone. The POCO is the last one i want to upset, they have given me alot of work so i do everything by the book with them. I see that pedistal is 4X4's and plywood, the POCO stopped us from doing that years ago. They had us start using 5/4X6 with 4X4's and last year they have changed it to 6X6's. A pedistal is considered a temporary service but they know most of these become permanent so they require heavier lumber now. I push for a PT 8X8 now with a meter socket on one side and the disconnect on the other so it isnt so gawdy on the HO's property. Good luck with it, i love services for the quick easy money.

jrclen · 05-11-2008, 07:34 PM

I usually use 4x4's and 2x6's across them too. The plywood is still legal here but I haven't used it for many years. I do a lot of free standing pedestals for mobile home services. I agree about not upsetting the POCO.

This job was a joke from day one. When I first got a call from the HO, he needed a licensed electrician or the POCO would not connect. I found the feeder for the house already buried and covered. The feeder conductors were 8 feet short on the house end and needed to be spliced to enter the house. Then this mess with the existing meter can. Now he has this ugly pedestal in the back yard to mow around. All to save a few bucks on a very nice new log house. And having to buy the meter/main and hire me, put him well over what he saved on not having the POCO run the new UG lateral to the house from the transformer already in the yard.

31b · 05-11-2008, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnettica

Geeze.... the main fuse panel with an oil heat tank directly in front of it.

Gee, no fire hazard there huh guys?

my house has exactly the same situation (just moved here about 6 months ago).

gonna be moving to LP in the very near future though so it's no biggie, the tank will be gone soon, and my truck will get some extra go-go juice.