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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
Serious question....
How is it even possible for it to be OFTEN difficult to drive a ground rod when you WORK IN A DESERT!!?? |
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.Quote:
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
You are confusing desert with sand.
There are a few things we encounter here in the desert. We have these things called mountains that are made from hard rock that has been pushed up from the earths crust. Any where in the vicinity of these mountains you will find a LOT of rock. We also have this stuff called caliche which looks and acts like concrete. In the areas around the river beds, the sand we do have is mixed with large round boulders. Some areas are built on fill material consisting of who knows what. Here is an example from last week. It took me two solid hours to expose the conduit on ONE side of the old pole base (my hel[per did the other side) so we could remove/replace it. No rain plus compacted dirt/rocks = hard digging. ![]() In conclusion, desert does not equal sand
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
Just to add..................80%+ of the Worlds Deserts have NO sand what so ever.
And the LARGEST Desert, by definition, in the World is where????? (and NO! It is NOT between my ears!!!) Anyone? Anyone?
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
Second guess......Ha! Ha! HA!
Nope. Not the Sahara.
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
Antarctica.
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
Antarctica is the CORRECT answer.
" On average, Antarctica is the coldest, driest and windiest continent, and has the highest average elevation of all the continents. Since there is little precipitation, except at the coasts, the interior of the continent is technically the largest desert in the world. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
DRY, HARD, dirt that resists water absorption. In the Monsoon Season, there are flash floods and MAJOR washouts due to the Earths resistance to water seepage. A Garden hose is not much help.
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
What does the Antarctica code say about chopped up ground rods???
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.Quote:
Funny you brought that up I was just reading their code and ground rods only have to go down 3 feet. Anything deeper than that is considered drilling for oil and requires another permit |
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
he cut the top off a ground rod which isnt to good
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Re: Forgive Me Lord For I Have Sinned.
I worked on a job installing an 8 6" conduit ductbank and 12 8' x 6' x 8' manholes from the West 5th Ave. wall to the Carousel in NYC's Central Park. We could NOT drive the required 10' x 3/4 " ground rods through the bottom of each manhole into the bedrock w/o a piledriver. The inspector was all over this issue and quite giddy that this was a problem for us, and made it a point to be present at each ground rod driving ceremony.
Upon clarification with the shop, the estimator and the Dep of Parks higher-ups, the solution was to drive the rods through the bottom of the manholes SIDEWAYS. Nothing in the contract said we couldn't, and "DOWN" wasn't specified... |
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