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Old 09-19-2008, 12:24 AM   #21
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Do you happen to have the email address for the electrical inspector in that jurisdiction, I wanted to ask him an unrelated question about something completely different. And if you have any more pictures of that could you post them.



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Old 09-19-2008, 02:01 AM   #22
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Do you happen to have the email address for the electrical inspector in that jurisdiction, I wanted to ask him an unrelated question about something completely different.
I deserved that.

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And if you have any more pictures of that could you post them.
One time I used green marking tape on a #6 ground wire. I'd go take a pic but the building has probably burned to the ground by now.
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Serious question....


How is it even possible for it to be OFTEN difficult to drive a ground rod when you WORK IN A DESERT!!??
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Serious question....


How is it even possible for it to be OFTEN difficult to drive a ground rod when you WORK IN A DESERT!!??
I'm glad you asked that, I was wondering the same thing, all he's really doing is pounding sand.





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You are confusing desert with sand.

There are a few things we encounter here in the desert.

We have these things called mountains that are made from hard rock that has been pushed up from the earths crust. Any where in the vicinity of these mountains you will find a LOT of rock.

We also have this stuff called caliche which looks and acts like concrete.

In the areas around the river beds, the sand we do have is mixed with large round boulders.

Some areas are built on fill material consisting of who knows what.

Here is an example from last week. It took me two solid hours to expose the conduit on ONE side of the old pole base (my hel[per did the other side) so we could remove/replace it. No rain plus compacted dirt/rocks = hard digging.




In conclusion, desert does not equal sand
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Just to add..................80%+ of the Worlds Deserts have NO sand what so ever.

And the LARGEST Desert, by definition, in the World is where????? (and NO! It is NOT between my ears!!!)

Anyone? Anyone?
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Just to add..................80%+ of the Worlds Deserts have NO sand what so ever.

And the LARGEST Desert, by definition, in the World is where????? (and NO! It is NOT between my ears!!!)

Anyone? Anyone?
my second guess would be the sahara in north africa
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my second guess would be the sahara in north africa
Second guess......Ha! Ha! HA!


Nope. Not the Sahara.
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Antarctica.
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Antarctica.
I was thinking one of the poles.
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Antarctica is the CORRECT answer.


" On average, Antarctica is the coldest, driest and windiest continent, and has the highest average elevation of all the continents. Since there is little precipitation, except at the coasts, the interior of the continent is technically the largest desert in the world. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica
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You are confusing desert with sand.

There are a few things we encounter here in the desert.

We have these things called mountains that are made from hard rock that has been pushed up from the earths crust. Any where in the vicinity of these mountains you will find a LOT of rock.

We also have this stuff called caliche which looks and acts like concrete.

In the areas around the river beds, the sand we do have is mixed with large round boulders.

Some areas are built on fill material consisting of who knows what.

Here is an example from last week. It took me two solid hours to expose the conduit on ONE side of the old pole base (my hel[per did the other side) so we could remove/replace it. No rain plus compacted dirt/rocks = hard digging.




In conclusion, desert does not equal sand
You could have "simply" used a garden hose and softened the dirt up and made it a 15 minute job.
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You could have "simply" used a garden hose and softened the dirt up and made it a 15 minute job.
DRY, HARD, dirt that resists water absorption. In the Monsoon Season, there are flash floods and MAJOR washouts due to the Earths resistance to water seepage. A Garden hose is not much help.
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There were rocks as big as my fist, six inches apart. The only thing water would have done is make a mess.
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What does the Antarctica code say about chopped up ground rods???
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What does the Antarctica code say about chopped up ground rods???

Funny you brought that up I was just reading their code and ground rods only have to go down 3 feet. Anything deeper than that is considered drilling for oil and requires another permit
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he cut the top off a ground rod which isnt to good
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I worked on a job installing an 8 6" conduit ductbank and 12 8' x 6' x 8' manholes from the West 5th Ave. wall to the Carousel in NYC's Central Park. We could NOT drive the required 10' x 3/4 " ground rods through the bottom of each manhole into the bedrock w/o a piledriver. The inspector was all over this issue and quite giddy that this was a problem for us, and made it a point to be present at each ground rod driving ceremony.

Upon clarification with the shop, the estimator and the Dep of Parks higher-ups, the solution was to drive the rods through the bottom of the manholes SIDEWAYS. Nothing in the contract said we couldn't, and "DOWN" wasn't specified...
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Was the rock down there pushed up, or was it exposed via erosion, or some of both?
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