A Taste Of What I Have To Deal With... - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

Haaser · 09-18-2009, 10:16 AM

this is a project that we were hired to take over after the bulding owner decided that his not so "handy man" could not bring it to code...

this place is inside a hotel, it used to serve as the kitchen. when we got there it was already gutted... in other words, if it was in the way it was cut...

we were hired to get what he needed to get his CO to pass... he is STILL hiring MORONS to do the non-inspection work (drywall flooring...) OMFG...

Lessons learned here, if this is how you meet a client:

Haas Const: Hello sir what can we help you with?
Builging owner: well i THOUGHT i....

JUST RUN AWAY!!! thinking is not what you do best....

now to the pics... these were taken about a week into us taking over...

this is in a bathroom... whats wrong here?

A view of a 2hr fire wall we did

Firewall along with some columns we wrapped. and a F

ed up floor...

Haaser · 09-18-2009, 10:26 AM

Here are some more...

Another view of the fire wall to the rear STEEL frame partition wall in the rear of the club...

View or where we STOP. because the owner did not want to pay for us to remove the wood and demo the old plumbing... so we waited 10 days for him to find someone to do it cheep! thank god this is all T&M baby!!!

this is what is behind the Partition wall we built.... we had to work around this

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Haaser · 09-18-2009, 10:32 AM

some more....

this is a good view of the old kitchen floor. thats 2" of thin set the old tiles sat on... WTF??? well we ended up building a floating floor over that mess...

This is the entrance to the new mens room... gee i wonder whats wrong with this??

Same entrance... just showing a BIG hole the old "Plumbers" forgot to fill in...

Haaser · 09-18-2009, 10:42 AM

here is my 2 Hour fire door!!!

No.. it shows the double layer 5/8" drywall and whats behind where a real fire door now sits... LOL
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Well i have a tone more pics if you want to piss your pants at my cost...

All i can say is im glad this is a T&M job... i will NEVER work for indians (dot not feather) EVER again!

im so ashamed of this place i wont even put up a company sign... now thats SAD!!

Please feel free to ask any questions you might have.... LMAO....

ill post some newer pics as soon as i get them sorted...

Haaser · 09-18-2009, 10:46 AM

I posted some pics of what the "plumbers" did HERE if you want to see it...

Celtic · 09-18-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Haaser

im so ashamed of this place i wont even put up a company sign... now thats SAD!!

WTF?

OVER!

davitk · 09-19-2009, 06:28 AM

T & M... don't you own a broom?

CookeCarpentry · 09-19-2009, 12:36 PM

I must be confused...I thought the pics were of someone performing a remodel on a 30 yard dumpster...

Haaser · 09-19-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by davitk

T & M... don't you own a broom?

we loaned them to the the guy that does it for the hotel. the owner WILL NOT pay for us to do ANY THING!!! right now we have one guy sitting there babysitting.

truth is, i was seeking your thoughts on if you have ever ran into a owner this thick?

and come on, would you display a sign if your job looked like this? its already bad our name is on the permit...

now a few more pics... these are of the owners 13 year old son had his "handy man" putting down the dance floor....

Anything missing???

And yes our insurance company HAS been out to take pictures also. i have had the owner sign wavers on ALL the work he had done!!! they are not going to sue us in 3 months when this floor fails, and it WILL!!

Haaser · 09-19-2009, 02:36 PM

Well i thought this was a good one.... look close its hard to see... Can you tell whats wrong here???

nEighter · 09-19-2009, 02:56 PM

flooring not offset enough? Bad, but not that bad man.. I dunno that is tough. AT LEAST.. you get $$$ from it.

davitk · 09-19-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Haaser

Well i thought this was a good one.... look close its hard to see... Can you tell whats wrong here???

Other than the dancer's safety-toe shoes, no.

Haaser · 09-20-2009, 01:01 AM

Ok here it is.... If you look CLOSE in the center of the pic... you will see a faint white line, that white line is from the owner finding a better deal on some floor that is just a little thicker than the rest. now as you know it wont "lock" that way... so what they did was cut the "tongue" off the butt side and just glued it to the OSB.

other than that, on the other pics... THERE IS NO PADDING!!! none, the whole floor moves when you walk on it... its a sight to see. im going to try to get some video of it monday.

this whole place is a joke.

lavrans · 09-20-2009, 01:32 AM

So... Are you sure it's 2" of thinset and not a mudbed? 2" is standard practice.

A lot of pretty ugly stuff there though. That's pretty common for low-quality commercial though. The owners tend to be overextended already, don't appreciate that the low-budget hacks are going to give them a low quality job that really won't last very long. So- you fight them about time, material, cost, methods, pretty much everything. And they're never very happy at the end. Pretty much like working low budget residential, whether for low-income home owners or property managers or developers.

747 · 09-20-2009, 07:58 AM

I know what is wrong in the pic with his son putting down the floor. If i'm not mistaken your suppose to put down a underlayment of somekind first.(like some special felt paper or something or some synthetic whatever.

Haaser · 09-23-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lavrans

So... Are you sure it's 2" of thinset and not a mudbed? 2" is standard practice.

A lot of pretty ugly stuff there though. That's pretty common for low-quality commercial though. The owners tend to be overextended already, don't appreciate that the low-budget hacks are going to give them a low quality job that really won't last very long. So- you fight them about time, material, cost, methods, pretty much everything. And they're never very happy at the end. Pretty much like working low budget residential, whether for low-income home owners or property managers or developers.

To be honest, this is the first time we have had to demo a kitchen. i have never seen it done like that, i thought it was something they did in the late 50's early 60's this place was built in 1960. wvwn now when we build commercial kitchens we have never put a 2" pit in the concrete just to fill it back in with thinset or mud bed... i dont know just might be me.