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Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
We completed the set up and poured the walls on this unique home, a combination of steel framing and ICF curtain walls. The pump truck arrived at 1 pm, an hour early, and concrete didn't show until 3:30....one of those days, The mud was hot by the time we got to the second truck
and it still went ok. But it was a long day.....
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
Give me some close ups of the ICF tying into the Red Iron...
Clean looking job by the way
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
I'll be back up there in a few weeks. No problem on the pics. This job came to me from BuildBlock, and they sold the customer on using 9 inch forms.....since they don't have a practical roofing system, they had the brilliant idea to combine steel building and ICF walls.
Had I been in on this from the start, we would have built conventionally, and then trussed with steel.
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
A few more, and man, was it hot lost week. 102+ average temps after 11:00 am . Makes for a miserable day. If anyone asks, I can tell you the name of the steel supplier and I would never use their building or design again. This one is a project that will be a looser (money) in the books when done.
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
And the inside and safe room: For some of you who may not know, safe rooms are the above ground version of the "fraidy hole" in tornado country. This safe room has a 6 inch concrete cap poured with the wall forms. The ceiling height is about 7'2" to allow for the LiteDeck form.
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
Not familiar with this type of construction, i see the services stubbed out from the floor, but how do services get into the walls? (outlets, switches, water, etc)... G
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
The home will be steel framed interior, so typical installation. The walls get a "slot" cut in them to allow passage of wire and a cut out for boxes. Remind me, and I will take some detail pictures.
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
Did you have some sort of 'Nelson Stud' welded to the columns where the ICF meets to make a bond? How come the designer did not just have ICF all around and start the red iron on top rather than all these breaks throughout the building?
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
We welded r-bar stubs to the columns for security.
The design was not mine, but rather a collaboration between the HO and the ICF sales guys. Had I been part of the initial planning, this would have been full ICF walls, with weld plates on the top sill, or bolt attachments and either I beam frames or steel trusses welded or bolted on. And Chris.....if you ever pour 9 inch blocks, I hope you have better results then I did. a 4 inch cavity is pretty tight, plus the vertical and horizontal bars really make consolidation a bitch. We vibrated and vibrated to get the walls solid. I would use only a line pump next time with a 2 inch hose for this also.
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
I have never poured 4" walls, I was warned from day 1 to stay away from them and convert everything to 6" minimum which I have done. Rebar is tight enough try and add concrete with gravel and get a vibrator down there, no thanks.
Yes, I would have pushed to get the design the way you speak of, makes more sense to me.
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Re: Steel/ICF Home, Ponca City, Oklahoma
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