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07-01-2009, 03:09 PM
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Capra aegagrus
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Remodeler
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Central Pennsylvania
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We swallowed a house
This is a job we did a while back; somewhat ill-advised because the budget was practically zero for any goofs, changes or whatever. But the HO had cash in hand and it's hard to resist a challenge. He also provided doors & windows bought at a surplus place. <sigh>
Tiny little place. We added a full-width extension 15' deep across the entire rear, with a cathedral ceiling and loft. Removed the original roof after dry-in and left that area as an unfinished cathedral-ceilinged "storage space"  walled off from from the addition area. The HO is a DIY'er.
There was no money to do anything with the chintzy aluminum porch roof, so we had that to dance around during the whole process. We're supposedly going back to build a real porch if/when he gets another chunk of money together.
No, OSHA wasn't involved.
The whole job was basically me and one other guy, with a couple of young grunts to help out with those stinkin' rafters.
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07-01-2009, 03:09 PM
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Capra aegagrus
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Remodeler
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Location: Central Pennsylvania
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The final result.
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07-01-2009, 03:24 PM
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Workin' Hard & Havin' Fun
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Deck Builder
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Reading, PA
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wow!
Inside shots?
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07-01-2009, 03:33 PM
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Home Depot aisle walker
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home remodeling
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Location: Tulsa OK
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Let me guess, the HO was living in it the whole time. Call me crazy but I like jobs like that, lot of head scratching. Good job
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07-01-2009, 04:14 PM
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Capra aegagrus
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Remodeler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willworkforbeer
Let me guess, the HO was living in it the whole time.
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Complete with a one year old crumbsnatcher. Why would you think anything else?
That's the biggest roof I've ever built, and I seriously doubt I'll do another. It's steep enough that not many people can walk it, and just plain big enough that when you stand in the middle of it, your horizon-sense tends to get confused.
Besides, I'm getting too old for that stuff. I see birdhouses in my future.
Sorry Matt; somehow I never got around to any inside pics.
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07-01-2009, 04:41 PM
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DavidC
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That is an extreme makeover. I especially like the "go ahead and climb while I hold it" staging. Nice job, inside pics would have been nice.
Good Luck
Dave
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07-01-2009, 05:02 PM
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Pro
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Sure, what you got?
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Location: Auburn Indiana
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Quite a difference.
I have done 5 or 6 re-roof frames to eliminate some dead-end valley's, flat roof sections, blah, blah. Tore a couple apart from the inside after I did the roof, no matter what, that just sucks.
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07-01-2009, 05:07 PM
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Pro
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Preservation & Reproduction Millwork
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Great improvements for sure!
I can't believe no one took that crappy looking entrance thingy down!
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07-01-2009, 05:13 PM
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Capra aegagrus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidC
I especially like the "go ahead and climb while I hold it" staging.
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Well, the ladder was sitting on a 2x10 to distribute the weight over that porch roof. Sometimes ya just gotta do what it takes.
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Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
Tore a couple apart from the inside after I did the roof, no matter what, that just sucks.
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Sucks even more when your partner promised the HO that we'd save the old rafters for him.
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Originally Posted by Jason W
I can't believe no one took that crappy looking entrance thingy down! 
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Trust me, if/when we go back for the porch, I'm going after that first thing. With a sledgehammer.
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07-01-2009, 07:11 PM
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Pro
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Renovations
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Talk about value-added, holy crap! Really nice job, I too, like the challenge of that stuff.
The one I'm doing right now has none of 'those' challenges, just lots of the "Christ this is heavy, and I have to take it where?" kind.
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07-01-2009, 10:26 PM
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Custom Deck Builder
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Decks, patio roofs
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Location: Eugene, OR
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Helluva remodel, guy...and a very apt thread title!
Way to go!
Mac
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07-01-2009, 10:30 PM
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Capra aegagrus
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Remodeler
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Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reveivl
Talk about value-added, holy crap!
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Well yeah, there's no doubt about the value added, but personally I think it looks like a barn. It took quite a bit of back and forth with the HO to make it look even that good, compared to his original concept.
And when it comes time for the porch, a third gable makes sense. But to do it with a matching pitch means those upper windows would have to be moved.
Oh, to just once have an unlimited budget!
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The one I'm doing right now has none of 'those' challenges, just lots of the "Christ this is heavy, and I have to take it where?" kind.
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Yeah, but it's crispy-clean new. There's a certain joyous freedom about that, when you can just build without having to tie in to old stuff and fret about whether it's all going to mesh in the end.
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07-01-2009, 11:54 PM
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Slow Roller
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Building permit dept. require structural eng. for existing foundation before eissuance?
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07-02-2009, 12:04 AM
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Drywall Master
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wow, how much square footage was added to the house by doing this?
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07-02-2009, 05:34 AM
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Capra aegagrus
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Remodeler
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Location: Central Pennsylvania
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crock
Building permit dept. require structural eng. for existing foundation before eissuance?
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They should have.  No, all we had to do was dig down alongside the house and show that it had a proper footer.
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Originally Posted by Elite_Drywall
wow, how much square footage was added to the house by doing this?
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I don't recall exactly, but it was more than tripled.
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07-02-2009, 07:28 AM
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Handle It!
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Everything The Union Guys Do Not Want To Do
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinstaafl
I don't recall exactly, but it was more than tripled.
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Volumetrically or Living space wise...........I do not grasp the figure?
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07-02-2009, 01:08 PM
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Capra aegagrus
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Remodeler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York
Volumetrically or Living space wise...........I do not grasp the figure?
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Um... square feet?
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07-02-2009, 05:59 PM
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Handle It!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinstaafl
Um... square feet? 
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How does one triple the Sq. Footage by adding one level of mirrored footprint.........
Or did I miss something?
Honest question!
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07-02-2009, 06:00 PM
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Slow Roller
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Fan of Bodger
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Altitude sickness. Makes you do some weird stuff dog.
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07-02-2009, 06:30 PM
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Pro
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Many years ago I was working as an engineer for a guy that did the same thing. We used his house for an office and were still using drafting boards, the foxtail brooms saw a lot of use.
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