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Old 09-10-2009, 05:35 AM   #21
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That whole thing just looks messy! I like the fillers and little plywood gussets ont the piggybacks instead of running lat
ooooh, yeah, now that picture is showing a major, major problem. The trusses have to come down. That's imminent failure waiting to happen. I'm surprised they didn't buckle on him when installing since they're scissors.

Good catch.

I like all the kickers of the roof ply.

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Old 09-10-2009, 01:41 PM   #22
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The former builder did not follow the architects plans and the trusses were not signed off on by an engineer...they were simply ordered by the builder from the truss company.

There are plumbing drain and vent ABS pipes coming out hallways and there are rooms that are so oddly shaped that they are unworkable.

The house is 7100 sq. ft. ...we intend to cut a large central courtyard out of the slab, trench the slab to move the plumbing for a workable floor plan and re dig and pour new footings...Of course the trusses and the interior walls all have to come down first.

The new trusses will have a more conventional pitch and i agree it is a fugly looking house right now.

The frame and the foundation are an obvious mismatch. (Former Bonehead Builder Changes ?) It sound like the original architects plan should be built on that foundation or it should be totally scraped. I would like to see an engineer OK your new design proposals.

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My best friend designed this home. The builder was adamant for a more "cut-up" roof line without any change to the floor plan ?????

So, to make him happy, the hip/valley to nowhere was invented.

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This was the first and only time I have ever seen tails sloped down.

I have done plenty split pitch roof systems i.e. 8:12 / 12:12 where the 12:12 rafters are bob tailed (no tail) and then 8:12 tails are added beside each rafter.

This was in Memphis (Germantown) Tennessee. I had to turn around out of disbelief and a morbid curiosity to photograph rough framing.

It looks to me, like the brick frieze is down in the window RO........but that could be the way they wanted it
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I can't picture that looking good, and nice staging
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My best friend designed this home. The builder was adamant for a more "cut-up" roof line without any change to the floor plan ?????

So, to make him happy, the hip/valley to nowhere was invented.

"gag"

Escape chute for the roofers?
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Here, in Ontario, Canada, we have flagged areas in the construction process that MUST be inspected by the city engineers. Footings at load bearing points is a really BIG one! Until the load bearing footings are signed off by the inspector, load bearing walls and posts have to wait! Additionally, the building plans are scrutinized by the city engineers, to ensure the processes follow the Ontario Building Code minimum regulations. OH..we still have fly-by-night outfits that turn out trashy, dangerous projects as those shown, but guys don't last much past the court case, the fines, or in severe cases, imprisonment!! An established minimum building code, with defined inspection points, by certified independent engineers would go a long way to reduce these disasters.

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I bet that the roofers didn't get paid nearly enough for this job? It looks like they used only 20 yr shingles too.
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I have often pulled over to take pictures of things that just don't look right. I am going to start this thread with some of these pix.......and maybe we can figure out what went wrong and together, through peer education, eliminate this from happening again (at least by those who frequent this site)

1. This house [East of Memphis, TN] has a bay that the roof looks all wrong on. I expect Joe Carola could seriously school the right way to do this.

2. The far upper ridge / valley looks a bit weird, but it could just be the camera angle.

3. The over-sized triangular louver (ugly-as-sin) is common in that area. Ridge vents? Hello?
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Wow that is ridiculous..
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That whole thing just looks messy! I like the fillers and little plywood gussets ont the piggybacks instead of running lat
Looks like the truss company didn't allow for lateral bracing without throwing the plane out.

Buts thats not exactly the proper fix to say the least.
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This was the first and only time I have ever seen tails sloped down.

I have done plenty split pitch roof systems i.e. 8:12 / 12:12 where the 12:12 rafters are bob tailed (no tail) and then 8:12 tails are added beside each rafter.

This was in Memphis (Germantown) Tennessee. I had to turn around out of disbelief and a morbid curiosity to photograph rough framing.

It looks to me, like the brick frieze is down in the window RO........but that could be the way they wanted it
turn the tail so it kicks up, that would like nice, that detail there is a bit interesting, i wouldn't do it on my house though
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My best friend designed this home. The builder was adamant for a more "cut-up" roof line without any change to the floor plan ?????

So, to make him happy, the hip/valley to nowhere was invented.

"gag"
what valley are we talking about, the hip looks right but that tapered valley looks out of place, dumb question but i just dont see it

oh both of them, the hip is out of place because there is no jog
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If I remember correctly the truss company we order our trusses from are stamped by an engineer before they leave the factory.
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This was the first and only time I have ever seen tails sloped down.

I have done plenty split pitch roof systems i.e. 8:12 / 12:12 where the 12:12 rafters are bob tailed (no tail) and then 8:12 tails are added beside each rafter.

This was in Memphis (Germantown) Tennessee. I had to turn around out of disbelief and a morbid curiosity to photograph rough framing.

It looks to me, like the brick frieze is down in the window RO........but that could be the way they wanted it


In that last pic, I see a sheet of OSB upside down..
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My best friend designed this home. The builder was adamant for a more "cut-up" roof line without any change to the floor plan ?????

So, to make him happy, the hip/valley to nowhere was invented.

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I am absolutely speechless.
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If I remember correctly the truss company we order our trusses from are stamped by an engineer before they leave the factory.
Yep yep
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In that last pic, I see a sheet of OSB upside down..
I also see a sheet of the fiber board upside down, did not think anyone even used that anymore. how is in the world is that going to work , don't they know the print has to be up so you can read it. Now someone will have to stand on their head.
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Disgraceful!

That bay roof was a hack job. It should follow the pitch of the house, and have a small ridge that is the same length as the bay is from the house. That 2nd pick with the double/flash/hack job is something I have never seen. I cannot imagine what went wrong there.Roofer should be whipped too.
Obviously never built a chimney "Cricket" before.
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