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11-23-2008, 08:32 PM
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Logcabin-Corner 6x6 Timber Stairs
Finished the outside stairs to my basement this weekend. The approach I chose uses interlocking 6x stock as both retaining wall and stairs.
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11-23-2008, 08:39 PM
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Full 6'' rise?. What goes on top to create a full step width? G
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11-23-2008, 08:42 PM
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I'll back fill with rock for drainage and then use a treated 2x10 as a finished tread for a total rise of 7".
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11-23-2008, 08:49 PM
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Is that a stringer i see on the foundation side ? And the retaining wall side goes through the wall fully ? It looks pretty cool. what is the staining i see as the step passes through the wall. G
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11-23-2008, 08:49 PM
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I'll back fill with rock for drainage and then use a treated 2x10 as a finished tread for a total rise of 7".
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That looks like a pretty cool project but when you add your 2x10"s isnt the rise going to stay 5 1/2", unless i'm missing something?
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11-23-2008, 08:53 PM
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that looks like a pretty cool project but when you add your 2x10"s isnt the rise going to stay 5 1/2", unless i'm missing something?
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7 1/2''
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11-23-2008, 08:55 PM
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Look on the stringer side you can see what appears to be a 1 1/2" piece of riser stick up past the 6x6. The green stuff is a chemical treatment applied to cut ends.
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11-23-2008, 08:59 PM
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7 1/2''
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In the first pic the 6x6's appear to be lined right up with one another, if you were to put 2x10's on them it would not make a difference on the rise of each step.
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11-23-2008, 09:12 PM
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Look on the stringer side you can see what appears to be a 1 1/2" piece of riser stick up past the 6x6. The green stuff is a chemical treatment applied to cut ends.
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The rise in the second pic looks inconsistant. Towards the top I see a bit of stringer and the lower it goes it appears the stringer gets bigger. The bottom tread looks like its an extra 5 1/2" wide.
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11-23-2008, 09:33 PM
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Is that a stringer i see on the foundation side ? And the retaining wall side goes through the wall fully ? It looks pretty cool. what is the staining i see as the step passes through the wall. G
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Yes there is a stringer on the foundation side, and I am going to add another inverted stringer, above the stairs (the two stringers will sandwich the stairs on the foundation side). The inverted top stringer will counteract pressure from soil.
The 6x treads and the retaining wall timbers are both notched for half-lap style joints.
The staining is the "re-treatment" of all cut ends and notches (Cuprinol).
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11-23-2008, 09:49 PM
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Quote:
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That looks like a pretty cool project but when you add your 2x10"s isnt the rise going to stay 5 1/2", unless i'm missing something?
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You are correct, I misspoke.
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11-23-2008, 09:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by curapa
The rise in the second pic looks inconsistant. Towards the top I see a bit of stringer and the lower it goes it appears the stringer gets bigger. The bottom tread looks like its an extra 5 1/2" wide.
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It only appears that way...photo angle.
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11-23-2008, 09:59 PM
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Good ol' Cuprinol #10. 
Get it on your hands, and you
can taste it with your dinner. 
Anything that foul must
be good!
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11-23-2008, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by basswood
Yes there is a stringer on the foundation side, and I am going to add another inverted stringer, above the stairs (the two stringers will sandwich the stairs on the foundation side). The inverted top stringer will counteract pressure from soil.
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I see this will 'spread the load' of the soil, as long as the treads are attached to both stringers. Around here, our clay would push those treads in and crack the foundation in one season.
Really cool way to maintain drainage... I like it
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11-23-2008, 10:04 PM
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Nice stuff Bass, thanks for showing it.
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11-23-2008, 10:06 PM
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I see this will 'spread the load' of the soil, as long as the treads are attached to both stringers. Around here, our clay would push those treads in and crack the foundation in one season.
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Looks like he's got deadmen
to prevent that.
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11-23-2008, 10:17 PM
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Quote:
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Looks like he's got deadmen
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uhhhhh oops... I missed that. Verrra Nice 
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11-23-2008, 10:33 PM
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Did you play with Lincoln Logs when you were a kid?
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11-23-2008, 10:56 PM
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Quote:
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Nice stuff Bass, thanks for showing it.
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Glad you like it.
The old steps were steep and narrow, concrete. The new stairs will be an improvement. I went with wood, because wood is what I know.
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11-23-2008, 10:58 PM
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Quote:
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Looks like he's got deadmen
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That was the plan, anyways. 
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