Wooden Canopy

dbryant11

Guys, sorry, but I've been searching for days, and can't find if this has been covered in the past, but can anyone give me some advice on the best way to attach something like this to a house? No masonry, all wood with vinyl siding. Thanks, and I just want to make sure it doesn't fall off...... thx.

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D.Foster

Pull the vinyl off and bolt to framing. Then re attach vinyl around the roof with your preferred trim and step flash. J-channel might look alittle weird around the corbel brackets tho

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Kaiser

I'm trying to figure out why anyone would want to attach that thing to any building.

But if your determind to do so try wonder putty.

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Forry

That pictures a mystery. Why is it on the side of a building with no door, window, or anything. Maybe it's a Harry Potter door?

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s. donato

can you use posts and incorporate it into the landscaping?

this is one i did last year
http://picasaweb.google.com/saldonat...81921423152866

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dbryant11

Sorry, the pic was supposed to clear, rather than muddy the water. I'm wanting to put a small "canopy, roof, overhang" over a front door, and figured (perhaps incorrectly) that a picture would be easier than trying to explain it. That's what I get for thinkin'. Its a very small house, 16' wide, 2 story, and I don't want a full width "porch." I'm also trying to not have support posts, since the doorway is only 36" without sidelights, and therefore is small, and I don't want to crowd the front "stoop" with posts, making it appear even more narrow. This is just a pic I found on the web that close to what I'm thinking. I also haven't even done the new siding yet, which could make it a bit easier, but I wasn't sure if I needed to do anything special inside the home, between the studs or anything to carry the load down from the corbels, etc. Thanks again! (I could get different pics, showing something like this over a door if that would help.......) So yes, Donato, something like you did, only without the support posts on the outside corners.........

world llc

as a custom home builder, you shoud all ready know!

dbryant11

Yes, I should, which is why I asked. I'm a general contractor, not a framer, and having never done one like this before, I wanted to make sure it was done correctly. Thanks in advance to anyone who knows, and can help me.

wallmaxx

Like "These Ones" as my CDN brethren are fond of saying. Do like was posted above. Remove as much exterior clad as required. Through bolt (if possible) into "beefy" sub-nailing members that you shall install into the framed wall and refinish.

An analogy would be like...this little roof is sticking out there like if you held a gallon of milk straight out in front of you...it just wants to go down.

neolitic

Yes!
You need solid framing behind
the knee braces.
The weight of the roof
as well as the weight on the roof
is pressing against the wall
at the bottom of the knee brace.
Think about it.

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Bodger

Whether he should or shouldn't, who gives a f*&k?
He's asking for help and speaking like a gentleman.

Has there ever been anything you didn't know that you should have?

BuiltByMAC

If you're unsure of your abilities to cut a structurally-sound curved knee brace, consider extra bracing
(either wood 2x2 or metal pipe assembly) following the red lines:
from crotch of support posts to back middle of the curved knee brace.

Yes, as Neo said - chunky blocking in the wall to distribute the load.

Mac

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Bodger

...And the through-bolts as mentioned above, if at all possible and wherever possible.
I've demo'd a rig like this and found loose lags that didn't hold up well.

Tom M

Solid framing will pick up the wieght behind the sheathing. I have put 2x3 verticle cleats along sides of the exisitng studs then used horizontal solid blocking against those cleats to transfer the load. Depending on your situation you can put a full size 4x4 or4x6 against the house verticly from landing to roof and brace to that. Connect any rafter or ridge to the house like you would a ledger board. Headlocks can make a nice neat connection for the braces.

D.Foster

Wall maxx,looks good. Bummer that the siding didnt line up.

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dbryant11

Thanks ALL! I appreciated all your comments, and helpful advice. I even appreciate the reminder of the responsibility I assume when taking on the title "Custom Home Builder" so thanks. Wallmaxx that's very close to what I'm thinking. The real good news, is the house is gutted inside, so the blocking will be a piece of cake, as I'm reframing around a new front door anyway. Thanks! For what its worth, feel free to check out some of my other projects under General Discussions, Post a Picture of your Current Job. I'm on page 31, in the middle.

Thanks again, and I'll post a pic of the final.

wallmaxx

Tell me about it. It's 100 years old. I had to look all over Houston to try and find a matching profile. No luck. So we carefully removed just enough in big enough pieces to re use. What a pain. The HO was understanding though.

Tom Struble

thats pretty nit picking
Wall max what is the siding material in the 2nd picture?looks unusual

D.Foster

Uhhh. Maybe, but that would be the first thing asked of me by many of my clients. I am glad that they were understanding Wall, didnt mean to be nit picky. Didnt expect that comment from a SIDING guy though!

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Tom Struble

sorry,your right it should line up dont know what i was thinking.
I guess from seeing it on the ground then on the wall impressed me