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Old 05-30-2007, 10:01 PM   #1
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What Happens When A Roof Is Not Flashed Rite!


Well I put a new roof on this house last week, 2nd part of the job was to replace any bad looking/rotted siding. While i was doing the roof , i noticed that the flashing really wasnt done rite. They didnt put any kickers at the bottom to deflect the water away from the house. So we took a couple of decent looking pieces of siding off for replacement. It was just cupped and could not be straitened without cracking it...

And this is what we find......






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Old 05-30-2007, 10:04 PM   #2
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heres a couple more...




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so how did you fix it?
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I know how that happened and it wasn't a diverter.There is no roofing manual that says you need one.it was the flashing down the wall.someone didn't flash the bottom and all of it ran behind the siding.probably had plenty of caulk up top.

what's up with the chimney flashing?

I'd also check out that dryer vent.it don't look to good.if it was to leak humid hot air behind the siding it would help the leaking water rot the wood.

doesn't look like the window was flashed either.can't tell if the top is.
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I think that may have added to the damage. The caulk was failed and it was a bad install too. But that roof was flashed wrong bye the builder, And that was about 22 years ago.. There is one more area on the other side of the house that was flashed wrong too. Still making my way around to that side, Cant wait...
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I run into that alot.It amazes me at times what people will do.

one good thing about it...money money money
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I know how that happened and it wasn't a diverter.There is no roofing manual that says you need one.it was the flashing down the wall.someone didn't flash the bottom and all of it ran behind the siding.probably had plenty of caulk up top.

what's up with the chimney flashing?
The flashing that ran down the side of that wall for the roof ended behind the siding. So the water just followed the flashing and ran down the wall behind the siding..maybe i can get a better pic tomorrow. I didnt feel like getting on the roof.

The chimney is wrapped in plastic awaiting the rest of the siding to be delivered. It was all rotted and got messed up doing the new flashing.
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apparently this cedar siding is hard to get or something, I bought what they had and have to wait two weeks for them to get more... unless i go to hines lumber, they have it sitting there, but its almost double the price as the place thats getting it for me..
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The flashing that ran down the side of that wall for the roof ended behind the siding. So the water just followed the flashing and ran down the wall behind the siding..maybe i can get a better pic tomorrow. I didnt feel like getting on the roof.

The chimney is wrapped in plastic awaiting the rest of the siding to be delivered. It was all rotted and got messed up doing the new flashing.
yeah,that's what I was talking about.I love those kinda repairs.looks like you are gonna be busy,or atleast waiting to be.
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Was the roofing step flashed up that gable? And the last piece of step was behind the siding? Or not flashed? Or a continuous flashing down that wall/roof junction?
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Was the roofing step flashed up that gable? And the last piece of step was behind the siding? Or not flashed? Or a continuous flashing down that wall/roof junction?
It was step flashing that just ended behind the siding.
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Ah, the interior gutter system...
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all fixed up...





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[QUOTE=Midwest BuildIT;247136]all fixed up...

Dumb question from someone who doesn't deal with remodels - does that fix mean new drywall panels as well? Or can you affix the old drywall to the new studs from the stud side somehow? I can't think of how you'd do it without new drywall.

That OSB under the window looks like it's seen better days too.

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all fixed up...

Dumb question from someone who doesn't deal with remodels - does that fix mean new drywall panels as well? Or can you affix the old drywall to the new studs from the stud side somehow? I can't think of how you'd do it without new drywall.

That OSB under the window looks like it's seen better days too.

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I would assume he left the old studs in the wall and sistered new ones next to them. The new ones are not attached to the drywall in this case (unless you want to glue them, but why?). The old studs don't look that bad on the interior side.
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Ten: It is very very important that you install Tyvek upside down; If not then both the Y and V will trap and retain moisture. By being upside down they act as a diverter and not a water trap.
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Alright, that makes sense. Looking at the "after" picture closer, it does look like the original studs are to the left of the new ones.
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They should put a circle around "tyvec" like they did around "dupont" to keep out water no matter which way you put it
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