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Old 07-29-2017, 09:16 PM   #1
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Looking for suggestions on the best way to build a stiff half wall around this stairwell.

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Notch and let in a dbl2x4or 4x4 like newel posts. Build the wall between.

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If you are unable to tie it into the floor, I would suggest some angle iron and lag bolts.
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I could tie into the floor framing around the rim fairly easily with GRK's. My concern there is that I don't really want to cut holes in the ceiling. Would I need to block around the posts being the holes will be right at the perimeter or will such small holes not matter?
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Just cut the plywood back enough to allow the blocks to be installed.
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The more I think about it a 2"x3" hole should be fine right? I mean my my duct vents are 6x10
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There are a few ways to do this. The first question, is do you want to be able to take it down to bring furniture / bulky items up easier?

If you want to take it down and put it up fairly easily, use something like this:

http://www.ljsmith.com/products.aspx...e=9&product=11

Tons of other ways to go. I always liked framing it with blocking and dropping it in.
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I overlooked it in planning
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And no, this will be permenant....not removeable
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I must be missing something - cutting holes in ceiling?? Your blocking doesn't have to run down to the ceiling.

I'm not sure why a 2X3 hole in the floor would be a concern, unless you'd be cutting the stairway framing.

In renos, I tend to use the surface mount style - the added work dealing with finished surfaces makes it preferred.
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You just have subfloor down, just open it up enough to put in the blocking you need, and put the same piece of subfloor (minus the post cutout) right back in.

If that won't work with your stair framing, use a surface mount style. Angle iron and base wrap to cover is pretty common.
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You just have subfloor down, just open it up enough to put in the blocking you need, and put the same piece of subfloor (minus the post cutout) right back in.

If that won't work with your stair framing, use a surface mount style. Angle iron and base wrap to cover is pretty common.
I think I am gonna roll with the 2ish x 3" hole and call it a day. I think I was thinking decking mentality for something that has a sheetgood floor
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I think I am gonna roll with the 2ish x 3" hole and call it a day. I think I was thinking decking mentality for something that has a sheetgood floor
You only need one or two on each length of wall, not every stud.
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You only need one or two on each length of wall, not every stud.
Building a half wall, he just needs the posts solid, and pop the bottom plate down to the floor. Maybe past 8' or so he'd need another post just for the stiffness, but a 1X6 cap or double top plate can stiffen it as well.
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Just throwing this out there... Could you sheath the interior of the wall with quarter inch ply down through the RO and then rock it with quarter inch drywall?
Wouldn't that stiffen if up plenty?
The last knee wall I framed up was with a double 2x post beside a rim joist through the floor, but it still had a bit of wobble to it. Nothing dangerous, but enough to bug me.

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Pretty damn stiff
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I've thought about trying these if all else fails. We've used them on decks and they work well. Maybe just cut the subfloor back to hide the base?

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