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Old 02-18-2018, 08:20 PM   #1
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Replacing 18' Railings


This is my first post so hello to everyone on here.

I'm hoping to get some advice from the more experienced carpenters on this forum.

I have a client who wants to replace the railings on this staircase. (attached photos)

The railings are over 18' long and he wants it to remain one solid piece of wood so I'm wondering where the best place to source a quality piece of lumber would be. I was thinking a 2x8 would be best with another piece attached to the top as a handrail of sorts.

The customer was also hoping to salvage the 2x2s but I'm not sure if that's possible. It seems like once the railing was removed they would all fall off for the most part.

Any other foreseen issues / advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 02-18-2018, 08:25 PM   #2
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Re: Replacing 18' Railings


If it were me, I'd install an intermediate post (4x4) half-way down. BUT, you can get 20' 2x8 if you want to replace it as is.

I'd use the opportunity to replace the rails altogether.

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Re: Replacing 18' Railings


I forgot to mention that the customer wants it to be one solid piece.
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In this circumstance, if I couldn't get the length needed, I think I would get 12' lengths, then use a router to make a long half lap joint. The joint would be cut into the face of the board. Not the edge. Glue with your choice of exterior wood glues, plus several countersunk screws. From the pics I dont think the deck warrants milling the railing.

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Any good lumberyard should be able to get you 24' 2x material, even if they don't normally stock it.

I wouldn't be optimistic about being able to re-use the balusters and have them look decent. Old paint, varying levels of integrity, damage done while removing them, time taken to clean them up...

What's shown in those pics doesn't meet code as a graspable handrail.
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Any idea how old that set up is? Looks like it's going to be as can of worms where you try to just remove the railing, but the spindles are old so they start breaking, then they pull out of the rotted stringers.

Make sure it's clear in your contract what is and isn't included.

I also thought I remembered hearing somewhere that wood railings could go max 10', maybe one of the deck guys can chime in

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I replaced a 10' section last week





I snipped a 1 x 2 to length and butted it under the rail, shooting an 18 gauge brad into each picket to maintain spacing.




Some of the screws came out; the rest were snipped with the recip.


I copied the old rail onto the new prepainted piece. The 1 x 2 held it while I installed it and refastened the pickets.







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Can you up sale him the whole enchilada. Attaching new railing on dalapidated stairs doesn't make safety sense nor financial sense. Imo.


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Can you up sale him the whole enchilada. Attaching new railing on dalapidated stairs doesn't make safety sense nor financial sense. Imo.


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Make sure the new railings onto the old pickets will pass the 200 lb concentrated load requirement per the IRC.............
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Make sure the new railings onto the old pickets will pass the 200 lb concentrated load requirement per the IRC.............


And the balusters need to withstand 50 lbs per square foot throughout the entire infill.


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