PVC "Aztec" Trim

RooferJim

Where getting called to do more and more of this stuff. got very pissed off today using 1/4"round to finish off a sidewall " kept cracking" Finnaly had to predrill and hand nail the *%$# thing. I do like the stuff though. Any thoughts

RooferJim

Greg Di

How cold was it? I've never had the stuff split on me.

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RizzoMaryland

I just installed about 75 ft of Azek pvc 1x today. The stuff is pretty easy to work with and cleans up real nice. Relatively maintenance free although crazy expensive...1x16x18=$122+.....

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neolitic

15ga SS works great. Also use SS trim heads, no problems yet down to the mid 20's last winter, colder than that? I'll probably never know

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troubleseeker

Are you sure it was "Azeck", and not just some generic white plastic "I promise you this stuff is just as good, but only half the price" material. I have not had any problems with "Azeck", but most of the generic stuff is brittle crap, and explodes when nailed.

wallmaxx

http://www.azek.com/

Cuts awesome...watch your fingers at the table saw. The sawdust is cool too...like snow.

Last week I was W A Y outside of my framing / corice / remodel element. I was asked to trim out the interior of a very irregular shaped shower with Azek. So, okay.

But then I'm given the ROE. Glue only...no brads.

Have you ever stood in one position for 12 minutes holding a 23" piece of Azek trim in place, only to let go, watch it come loose, fall, bend over and pick it up, and as you straighten back up, accidentally catch you large a$$ tool belt on the handle that turns on the water to the shower head?

No. Good for you.

I did. It sux. Oh yeah...and silicone sux too.

Mikey like his comfort zone---"Wood is Good." And "See wood, Get wood."

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troubleseeker

Invest $15 in a hot melt glue gun. The "slow setting" variery of glue gives you about ninety seconds positioning time then you can let go, and it doesn't matter how long it takes the adhesive to set.

Buy a tube of "Powergrab" adhesive by Loctite; available at you big orange box store. I gaurantee you will never touch another tube of any other slippery, sliding construction adhesive.

Tom R

Not saying "I know better", - - but personally, - - I wouldn't trust any glue to hold Azek for any length of time. At least not on it's own merit. Too much expansion and contraction involved with it.

neolitic

Power Grab and 15ga S.S.

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softtop95ta

I always use pvc glue like plumbers use on azek/coma it's what's recommended by the manufacturer! U must use it on joints or butt ends because it bond's the material together on a cellular level becoming one piece .Glue will not hold a end joint,but it will hold it on the wall I run miles of this every year and it works great never separates just expands and contracts as one piece.and stainless 15 ga trimgun nails are the only way to go handbang? never! Do not get cheap with filling the nail holes the manufacturer has a special filler for these products and when you use it u really would'nt know it was nailed!

nywoodwizard

When installing an Aztec skirt board how do you guys bump out the first row of siding ? I decided to rip mine and leave a tab , i don't do cement siding very often ,so i just did the first thing that came to mind. Overkill?

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Forry

Looks good to me, ny. Worth the effort.

FRAMERBEN

rip a 2" strip of cement siding to go at the very bottom of your first piece of siding. this will create the same flare (lap) as the siding above. that is too much work w/ that azeck. my 2 cents waste of time. Ben

nywoodwizard

I thought of that but was a little concerned that after nailing it up over the insulation board the reveal on the aztec may look wavy. It really didn't take that long and i thought the effort was worth it,

"Call me picky but never a butcher"

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dkillianjr

It might take a while, but I think its a good idea. You would think Aztek or a fiber cement manufactuer would make something like that.

Dave

nywoodwizard

I thought of looking for a router bit to do it in one pass.

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TaitINC

ny
i think that was a good idea and well worth the time. you will never have to worry about water getting behind it now.

just a peice of advice for anyone who doesn't already know. when cutting azek if you spray your tools with an anti static spray you won't have the problem of the dust sticking to it. i keep a can in my truck, and before i cut anything i spray myself and all of my tools. it really cuts down the annoying clingy dust.

spencer

nywoodwizard

Sounds like a good idea, wonder if it works for clothing, i look like a snowman when i'm done cutting.

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ApgarNJ

i have only used this stuff a few times in the past, but it's been several years since I last used it. Just not as popular on my jobsites as it is on other sites.
I have to trim out two french doors we are installing tomorrow, the guy wants azek brickmold on the outside. so i will miter the corner. from what i have read, only glue one side, if youw ant it to setup faster, use normal PVC glue, not the azek glue. then i plan on using painted white, stainless steel trim nails on the outside miter corners of the two doors. and then tack it with paslode nails, followed by some white ss trim screws.
it will be in the 30s tomorrow. what do you guys use as a reference for expansion. if it's cold and i but the miters tight with glue, are they going to pop open when it's 95 out?
also, i've read where some guys leave a small gap when it's cold out at a joint and when it heats up, it's tight. i would rather have it look nice all the time, i wouldn't think pvc glue with fasteners on the miters would open up.
one more thing,
what do you guys fill the nail holes with? i heard they sell something that is supposed to fill it and be almost invisible to detect where the nail or screw hole is, can you use this stuff in the winter?

thanks guys.

TaitINC

apgar

if you use the glue it actually turns the miters into one piece. It breaks down the material to a liquid then when it dries hard it becomes basically one piece. I used pin(18 ga) nails for the miters and finish (16 ga) nails for the face. If you ever tried to pull a nail out of Azek then you know it will hold. They make a filler that is almost undetectable, but i forget what it is called. The expansion is 1/8" per 18'. IF you paint it a dark color they make a special paint for it. It reflects more heat then normal paint. It helps it to stay a color temp resulting in less expansion. You can also heat the material and bend it around a round window with one piece. If you dent it with your hammer you can take a heat gun and draw the dent back out. (only if you didn't break the surface)