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Old 08-13-2017, 11:57 AM   #21
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Do you see something I don't?

Except for the wave in alignment, I don't see a real problem, and if this is in fact a barn, and purlins will be nailed down, and metal screwed down, it is structurally fine. Looks like he even used the metal spacers between trusses that are all the rage now. Blocking looks good.

If it were a home and you were decking the roof, then yes...I would fix it before I decked it because we all know it will show through and could be a problem later.
For $6.80 a run I love the truss spacers and wont set trusses without them.

We also deck barns daily around here
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Old 08-13-2017, 12:13 PM   #22
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Dude, have you ever in your life seen a professional carpenter use a 4' level to plane truss tails while setting?

No None of this is the end of the world nor will it ever be noticeable after the roof is decked, but still.....come on setting trusses with a 4' level? Come on..this guy is a DIYer
Dude...what if you were not taught the correct way to do something, and then were ambitious enough to head out and get some work on your own?

I did my first ICF in 1981...and there wasn't a forum of top notch pro's to give me any advice. I was self taught doing stuff that no one even knew may or may not work. I was 20 years old, on my own, and while I framed homes for a builder, I cannot really say I had any good teaching. It was all by the seat of my pants.

Again, I have seen far worse from guys who claim to be way better.
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Dude...what if you were not taught the correct way to do something, and then were ambitious enough to head out and get some work on your own?

I did my first ICF in 1981...and there wasn't a forum of top notch pro's to give me any advice. I was self taught doing stuff that no one even knew may or may not work. I was 20 years old, on my own, and while I framed homes for a builder, I cannot really say I had any good teaching. It was all by the seat of my pants.

Again, I have seen far worse from guys who claim to be way better.
What I am saying is this guy is not a pro and shouldn't even be posting here
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Again, I have seen far worse from guys who claim to be way better.
Agreed
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What I am saying is this guy is not a pro and shouldn't even be posting here
You guys may be right about him being a pro...maybe, after he builds this, he will do another. We don't know.

In 1997, I was working in engineering for a steel building manufacturer....I would have never guessed my son and I would be erecting 1 few hundred thousand feet of steel every year in addition to my home building. And my point is a lot of experienced steel erectors would die before they offer you any of the tips or tricks of the trade.
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If you're getting paid, you're a pro. You may be an inexperienced pro if it's your first one.

I haven't even touched a truss in years - nothing but small cut roofs.
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The beam that his tails are sitting on.
The heel nails to the wall.
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and tap them over so the heels are perfect.
We nail the facisha to the tails.
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The heel nails to the wall.

We nail the facisha to the tails.


That is one way to do it. I doubt it's the case when he's got trusses 2' oc. There would be a pole every 2'. I'd guess he has a beam or girder spanning the poles that the trusses are sitting on.
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That is one way to do it. I doubt it's the case when he's got trusses 2' oc. There would be a pole every 2'. I'd guess he has a beam or girder spanning the poles that the trusses are sitting on.
Now I have never built a pole barn because here and in Florida we NEVER put wood in the ground but from what I've seem on the forums the poles are around 8 feet apart and a beam or double 2x6 on top or bolted to the top Even tho I have never done one I could build one like I was a pro because I've seen it done so many times by my online friends.
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The heel nails to the wall.

We nail the facisha to the tails.
I order trusses quite often, and I always tell them to let the tails "run wild", or untrimmed. We chalk them and cut them in place for an exact fit.

9 times out of 10, I am installing a metal roof anyway, so to make a simple explanation. We may not even run a fascia board, but have the eave trim made so it is over the topm meaning rafter plus decking, and down the fascia side, and return in to a hem, or sometimes all the way to the reveal for brick.

Tell you boys something I learned on my own pretty much. You can take the fine carpentry rule book and use it to prop up a coffee table as far as I am concerned. I will work outside the box when it suits me, with no apology to anyone. Now we all follow the basics in the trade, but there are dozens of ways to skin cats and their kinfolks.
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Hello Everyone, thanks for your comments. The decision is that we will be cutting nails and adjusting to a string. I appreciate everything all of you said. Tyler Gettings
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Hello Everyone, thanks for your comments. The decision is that we will be cutting nails and adjusting to a string. I appreciate everything all of you said. Tyler Gettings
Good call....

be careful when you cut those nails to leave the trusses tied together...

domino effect on trusses is WAY ugly....
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Cut one truss at a time. And in the future, use the long screws to drive from the top down, or plate up. Toe nailing is a passe with all the great fasteners we have now.
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Simpson Truss Screws work well and may be code compliant in your area.
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Cut one truss at a time. And in the future, use the long screws to drive from the top down, or plate up. Toe nailing is a passe with all the great fasteners we have now.
We still toe nail on set day and then follow up with Simpson ties or screws later.

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I order trusses quite often, and I always tell them to let the tails "run wild", or untrimmed. We chalk them and cut them in place for an exact fit.

9 times out of 10, I am installing a metal roof anyway, so to make a simple explanation. We may not even run a fascia board, but have the eave trim made so it is over the topm meaning rafter plus decking, and down the fascia side, and return in to a hem, or sometimes all the way to the reveal for brick.

Tell you boys something I learned on my own pretty much. You can take the fine carpentry rule book and use it to prop up a coffee table as far as I am concerned. I will work outside the box when it suits me, with no apology to anyone. Now we all follow the basics in the trade, but there are dozens of ways to skin cats and their kinfolks.
I have never not cut the tails. I cut the hips to length on the ground and set a nail in the end to hook the string on. Heck I even run a string on the body of the hip. We put fascia board on most roofs but old Hawaiian style has no fascia. We will hold the fascia up as needed for tile or metal. All our fascia is exposed so it is finish, 45 corners and gnats ass joints. Most all of our over hangs are left open but not all. This house got a Board & baton soffit with 3/8 LP smartside. Those are O`hia post,, don't know what they are call on mainland.
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Thanks Everyone for the input.
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Making a big deal out of a minor deal.
Do a nice straight job with the metal sheeting and ridge and you will never see this.

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