Need Some Advice.

maine man · 10-28-2008, 11:57 PM

i have been doing renovations and had a taste of every trade working with my old man since i was 10. I started my own company mostly focusing on roofing because i know how to price and im comfortable in my bidding. id like to start doing more, im a good carpenter just most of my experience isnt as a cotract job. basically i have a customer who wants his house sided with vinly and all the soffits doors trim everything wrapped in aluminum. im from maine so the cost of living may be a little less around here but any advice on the way you charge would be appreciated. how much /sq for vinly instalation and a price/ ft for the aluminum.. is that how most of you would figure.
again im new to contract work and tend to underestimate the time it will take.

rbeck3@ec.rr.co · 10-29-2008, 07:25 AM

here goes

Jason Whipple · 10-29-2008, 07:46 AM

The Craftsman Estimator programs can help you get your barrings while you start out. Profit and over head not included with their pricing.

Link

SLSTech · 10-29-2008, 09:58 AM

Ouch - vinyl siding in Maine when its 10 degrees out? Sweet
Even if I lived right next to you, & gave you the rates I charged normally - they wouldn't help you in the middle of winter. Why - you either have to tent the work area & / or work at a dramatically slower pace. Go buy Michael Stones book on Markup & Profit. Also dittos to the above for National Estimator - its not perfect but it can at least get you started out.

TaitINC · 10-29-2008, 10:12 AM

Like previously stated no one elses rates will help you. everything varies in different markets; materials, labor, overhead etc...
I would say figure the job to the best of your ability and charge T&M. Go back when the job is done and figure out what it cost you per sq (100 sq ft) and now you have your base for future jobs.

Spencer

tcleve4911 · 10-29-2008, 05:39 PM

Maine man, Jason & Rbeck.............
The first thing to learn about contract writing is how to spell & proofread.......please!!!!!!!

Jason Whipple · 10-29-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tcleve4911

Maine man, Jason & Rbeck.............
The first thing to learn about contract writing is how to spell & proofread.......please!!!!!!!

Care to point out my mistake?

DavidC · 10-29-2008, 05:58 PM

bearings

Spell check police, haven't seen them out in a while. Just when you thought it was safe to typo...

Good Luck
Dave

OCRS · 10-29-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidC

Spell check police

**KentWhitten** · 10-29-2008, 08:00 PM

Maine man, what part of Maine we talking about? I'm from Maine and maybe I can guide you a little...key word little, since you know as well as I do that if you're in the county, you are already shoveling snow. If you're in Cape Elizabeth, they're giving you mocha grandes. If you are in the Sanford area, you are going to be low ballin'.

MALCO.New.York · 11-01-2008, 04:11 AM

Do not be ignorant. Punctuation, Spelling, Grammar and SYNTAX are some of the single most important elements of ANY business deal. Spoken or typed! Perio-Fookin-D!

Tom R · 11-01-2008, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason W

Care to point out my mistake?

I'd say he got ya' on 'barrings' . . .

Heritage · 11-02-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MALCO.New.York

Do not be ignorant. Punctuation, Spelling, Grammar and SYNTAX are some of the single most important elements of ANY business deal. Spoken or typed! Perio-Fookin-D!

You stepped in it

How could 4 different things be the SINGLE most important anything?

But he's right.

Jason Whipple · 11-02-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidC

bearings

Spell check police, haven't seen them out in a while. Just when you thought it was safe to typo...

Good Luck
Dave

Oh well, try to help out and someones always got to be an a$$!

He should try reading some of the building science forums. Some of the brightest people there and they could care less about a typo here and there. It's about sharing information on forums like these. It's not a damn spelling bee.

I guess tcleve won't be able to learn much if he can't get past a few screw ups every now and then.

His loss.

MALCO.New.York · 11-02-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason W

Oh well, try to help out and someones always got to be an a$$!

He should try reading some of the building science forums. Some of the brightest people there and they could care less about a typo here and there. It's about sharing information on forums like these. It's not a damn spelling bee.

I guess tcleve won't be able to learn much if he can't get past a few screw ups every now and then.

His loss.

Pay them MAJOR MIND.....

Some just do not grasp the importance of Etiquette, Presentation and Image.

Grammar is the FIRST indicator of a persons Station in Life!

Remember the Devil is in the Details...............and..................

The difference between a Constructor and a Craftsman IS THE DETAILS!!!!!

The more one practices to be perfect and exacting, the more one becomes JUST THAT!

I have a loooong Fookin way to go!

Jason Whipple · 11-02-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tcleve4911

There have been a few posts on this subject when this time of year approaches. Just wondering if there are any new ideas on keeping these types of items in your trailer or truck overnite without having to take them inside.

What was that about spelling? You obviously didn't go to NIGHT school!

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overnite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...overnite&go=Go

Settle down Tonto!

Please......

tcleve4911 · 11-02-2008, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason W

Care to point out my mistake?

Barrings...........Bearings

Jason Whipple · 11-02-2008, 09:52 AM

Yes, thank you for the second time now.

I think I know exactly where you're coming from....

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tcleve4911 · 11-02-2008, 11:43 AM

White & Nerdy!!!!!!

Jason Whipple · 11-02-2008, 11:46 AM

Good tunes for Sunday morning!

10-28-2008, 11:57 PM	#1
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