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Trade: I am a professional contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
I am just getting started in the business side of trim carpentry and I having trouble figuring out how to build a bid to do residential trim work.
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I like Green things
Trade: Custom Carpentry Services
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In a van, down by the river. Auburn, IN
Posts: 11,688
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
I think you need to build a scale model first, maybe out of posicle sticks. Then you can stress test it, and go from there.
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Pro
Trade: Carpentry & Remodeling
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: N.Y. State
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
As a "professional contractor" have you ever done trim before? Have you ever had to pay a sub to trim before?
One huuundred millllion dollars!!! j/k bad Austin Powers ref.
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Dave from Macatawa
Trade: GC, cabinet maker and remodeler
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, TX
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
it can be by the square foot of floor space (that is common in my area) or by the door and amount of base and case. By the base and case is rare in my experience.
Get hold of a Mean's estimating guide or Walker's and check them out. They show an approach to estimating. But if you use their estimated dollars out of the current book on of two things will happen. 1- you will never win a bid 2- someone pays the estimate book rate and you can retire early |
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Sweeper of fine saw dust
Trade: Project Manager by day, Cabinet maker for fun
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Delaware
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Trade: Carpentry & Remodeling
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: N.Y. State
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
I wonder if anyone has ever tried pricing trim by the # of corners, inside and out. For crown or base. Because that is where the time is.
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Sean
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?Quote:
So what do you know how to bid? |
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Trade: Carpentry & Remodeling
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Location: N.Y. State
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
Uh huh,. yes..Go on hahaha , I was thinkin the same thing.
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BIG D
Trade: Carpenter/Builder/Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Rhode Island
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
Well first you go to home depot....buy all the ryobi stuff they got. MMkay,Ex. chop saws, table saws, drils.. should cost about $50-$100.. then.... get sum flourecent green ext. cords and the red hoses that wouldnt flex on a hot rock in the middle of the summer MMkay...then.....do what everyone in our buisness does..put in the time and experience and get burned on a few jobs till you figure out the bidding game and learn how to make money doing this! Thats my take anyway. Good luck!
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Make it Happen!
Trade: Project Super
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Central NJ
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
thats just a whole lot of mean right there
poor guy is just trying to get ahead of the curve...maybe he doesnt wanna get burned a few times. perhaps he's a super trim guy that knows how to bid his own work, and is just testing us here to see what we'll say...huh...how bout that? i think thats it right there |
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He who's held accountable
Trade: General Contractor-Renovations
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: St. Albert, Canada
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?Quote:
For base, a joint against a door casing is one cut; a corner is two cuts. Been pricing it this way for years now. It likely wouldn't fly in "production" environments, but that's not where I find my work anyways... The rates are lower for paint grade; higher for clear finished hardwoods... and No...I won't say what these rates are... ![]() Cheers, Ron |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?Quote:
Problem is, there are so many first posts on here these days by new guys that inquire about bidding and pricing but don't give enough info to make an answer feasible. Kind of sets them up for abuse. I've never seen a mean reply on this forum if someone does an intro, and then asks properly for advice. |
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BIG D
Trade: Carpenter/Builder/Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Rhode Island
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?Quote:
Exactly my point!! We've all been doing this way before any of us could go on a forum for FREE and get a bunch of contractors to give us their prices. Two people see my prices. I do, and whoever is getting the work done. I'm not trying to be mean, but 9 times out of 10, its someone looks for free estimates, free "know-how", and whatever else free. Like Bodger said, you can find a dozen other post to figure this out, after all the steps have been taken that a professional would take. Introduce, say what you do, where your from etc |
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Trade: Carpentry & Remodeling
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: N.Y. State
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
you are right sir!!!
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BIG D
Trade: Carpenter/Builder/Contractor
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Location: Rhode Island
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?Quote:
I'm a professional contractor...I'm a professional contractor.... Another guy had the same occupation! He needed to know what tools you needed to install a vanity. Hmm |
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Registered User
Trade: carpenter
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
I stopped looking at this site about a year ago because of the smart ass remarks. I sign on today and first thing I see is dumbass comments. Forums are great place little men to build their egos I guess.
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?Quote:
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So this was the first post you saw, or did you go hunting for it? If you want to come here & fight, I am sure there are quite a few mods that will simply boot you out. If you wish to actually participate, learn a little humility, don't be such an A$$, and post an intro assuming you are a professional contractor & not just a little man with a size problem |
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Pro
Trade: Guy who plays with wood
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Littleton , CO
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
Pricing trim work involves lots of choices:
Ramen noodles or T-bone Sleeping in your truck or in your house Paying your bills or dragging down society Quality work or bad hack job Your price will reflect the choices you make. |
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Pro
Trade: Carpentry & Remodeling
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: N.Y. State
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?Quote:
Now, was yours a smartass comment or a dumbass comment??? Anyone? ![]() As for Ego's, any tradesman that hears a "carpenter" say that it is near impossible to replace a piece of T&G, will expose him. And being a "carpenter" i'm sure you have seen that on all the "jobsites",...Right??
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General Contractor
Trade: New Home Construction-Additions-Remodeling
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NJ
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Re: Making A Bid For Residential Trim Work?
Labor only $75 per door opening, includes in the price base, sill and apron on windows. (Builder basic package)
Extras: Crown, chair, shadow boxes, window ext/jams and casing, pulldown stairs. Anything custom, depends what it is.
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