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Old 02-26-2012, 01:19 PM   #1
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Need ideas. I have a room 16'x13' from the exterior wall in it is 5" out of level. I know several ways to correct. 1 problem is I can't go to the floor below and jack up floor. I have been thinking of sistering the floor joists , or even leaving the subfloor intact and timberlocking spike cut joist over the existing joist. my problem is: on 1 side of the room there is an adjoining bathroom and a kitchen(the kitchen floor is level) then I have on the other side of the room 2 , 4' closets with flloor to ceiling double doors. . my question is: how do I marry up all the thresholds? thanks for any thoughts
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Why is it out of level 5"??

I would fix that first. If its not an option. Pull up the floor board and sister on new joists level. If you've got an issue of doors on both sides you'll end up having to create a step somewhere. But what's the deal with a floor 5" out of level? How long is the span that it is out?

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5".

Your trade is gweneral contracting? How long you been in the biz?
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a floor that far out that wasn't caused by an issue that needed to be addressed. I would look in to it...something aint right.

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thresholds are the least of your worries
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the building is 147 years old, new owners, don't want to throw a large amount of money into it. , the span is 16'. the cellar has railroad ties under center beam. I've been doing this long enough to know the proper way to correct the problem is to start at ground level . but the budget won't permit a proper solution.
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shim the furniture
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the building is 147 years old. but the budget won't permit a proper solution.
Sad to say dont do anything if you cant fix the root of 5'' problem . Hate when budget is the real problem .
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patch fix will make it worse. It's just more crap to tear apart in the future when someone fixes it properly. Tell the owners you can't find a retailer for turd polish.
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but the budget won't permit a proper solution.
this is where crazy meets liability; if you touch it with some have arse fix, then the floor collapses b/c that 5" of drop you observed really meant the end of the joist was about to slide off of the top plate on the high end of the joist span, but unfortunately for you, it's your baby-you touch it/you own it. Kenny Rogers said it best, you got to know when to walk away and know when to run.
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this is where crazy meets liability; if you touch it with some have arse fix, then the floor collapses b/c that 5" of drop you observed really meant the end of the joist was about to slide off of the top plate on the high end of the joist span, but unfortunately for you, it's your baby-you touch it/you own it. Kenny Rogers said it best, you got to know when to walk away and know when to run.
I agree it sounds like its more of a liability than anything else. Walk away while you still have your shirt.
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What about the ceiling, is that out 5" too. Sounds like a sill or foundation problem. Probably had a 6x8 white oak sill and it is crushed down to the stone foundation.
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How can any of us give advice to a one time poster, with a huge structural problem that has no money to fix it?
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im sorry... don't shim the furniture
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im sorry... don't shim the furniture
That was a good one, I'm just mad I didn't think of it.
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thanks for the input. we kicked around some ideas here. work is tight in these parts. it's a 1900sf apartment renovation. the funny part is , i know i have to walk away, but some joker is going to come in. and do the job, incorrectly , and get paid. thanks again
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...i know i have to walk away, but some joker is going to come in. and do the job, incorrectly , and get paid. thanks again
Not necessarily... If you tell them that there will be "some joker" to come along with an improper solution, so they need to protect themselves by getting permits, which will also ensure the solution is viable, it could end up back in your lap... Telling them what they NEED as opposed to pretending it won't actually cost them more down the line is the way to go. Quote it out anyway to do it right and it might just come back to you...

If it doesn't, it doesn't hurt any less by not getting the work, but at least you are not a "joker", right?...
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Had a remodel like this i had to walk away from one time because the homeowner wanted me to completely gut and re-design his bathroom, fix some water damage in the kitchen, replace drywall in the bedroom along with carpet and paint. All of this needed replaced because of a roof leak which he didn't want to spend the money on. I told him it just didn't seem right to fix the interior just so it all would start to rot and mold down the road and need done again. Told him what i thought should be done and gave him a quote for the roof anyway. Last time i drove by the roof was still untouched and this was a little over a year ago. With all the electric in the way of the leak i hope he did something to help or his whole house is going to burn down.

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