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02-09-2010, 04:12 PM
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Garage service door ideas
I have to replace the service door in my garage and I have 7' walls. The problem is that it will hit the overhead door track. Looks like I have to cut 3-4" off the door. I don't remember ever cutting a metal door. I know I can, but then I would have to tear apart the threshold, cut the jamb, and put it back together and the bottom of the door itself would be pretty flimsy. It's a rental so it's gonna be a cheap pre-hung. I know someone out there has run into this and has a better idea.
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02-09-2010, 04:25 PM
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Can you make it an outswing door?
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02-09-2010, 04:27 PM
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Can you make it an outswing door?
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Then the hinges would be outside.
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02-09-2010, 04:27 PM
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02-09-2010, 04:29 PM
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I thought we were talking about the Man door not the overhead door? No?
Is there a problem with the hinges being on the outside?
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02-09-2010, 04:30 PM
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yes, man door.
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02-09-2010, 04:32 PM
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as far as the hinges being outside, the only problem would be theives
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02-09-2010, 04:32 PM
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they make outswing doors with different hinges. I have seen them many times.
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02-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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they make outswing doors with different hinges. I have seen them many times.
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Those locking hinges?
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02-09-2010, 04:39 PM
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Those locking hinges?
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I think they call them "tamper proof" but the striker is still vulnerable.
I always forget about the frikkin' crime factor
You can special order a shorter metal door from many of the door manufacturers.
Try that.
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02-09-2010, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tcleve4911
I think they call them "tamper proof" but the striker is still vulnerable.
I always forget about the frikkin' crime factor
You can special order a shorter metal door from many of the door manufacturers.
Try that. 
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I know I could order a shorter door, but I'm renting the house and landlord don't care about the door. The thing is I have like $10,000 in tools in there. Maby I should spring for the door and yank it out when I move out!
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02-09-2010, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
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I have to replace the service door in my garage
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Well who's paying for that!?
Split the cost with him to get the right door.
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02-09-2010, 04:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lukerich
Then the hinges would be outside.
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That is why you would
order an "outswing door."
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Last edited by neolitic; 02-09-2010 at 04:58 PM.
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02-09-2010, 04:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tcleve4911
Well who's paying for that!?
Split the cost with him to get the right door.
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I guess yer right. He would kinda have to do that. The door that's there won't even stay closed now.
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02-09-2010, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
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I think they call them "tamper proof" but the striker is still vulnerable.
I always forget about the frikkin' crime factor 
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That's why they make......
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02-09-2010, 10:26 PM
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there are sealed hinges on the steel doors...someone tryed to get into mine couple weeks back...tore door protector(tamper proof?) to hell but door held
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03-07-2010, 02:59 PM
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garage doors that fit
I would definitely use an out-swing type of door for security reasons. Don't think cutting a door for low hung purposes is a good idea.
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03-07-2010, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lukerich
as far as the hinges being outside, the only problem would be theives
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There are hinges that have a set screw that keeps the hinge pin from being removed, also they have an interlock that keeps them from being opened if the hinge pin is removed.
If someone wants in a house, they will get in.
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03-08-2010, 05:50 PM
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garage doors
Maybe take the least expensive route on the door and get some motion sensor floods.
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03-08-2010, 10:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lukerich
I have to replace the service door in my garage and I have 7' walls. The problem is that it will hit the overhead door track. Looks like I have to cut 3-4" off the door. I don't remember ever cutting a metal door. I know I can, but then I would have to tear apart the threshold, cut the jamb, and put it back together and the bottom of the door itself would be pretty flimsy. It's a rental so it's gonna be a cheap pre-hung. I know someone out there has run into this and has a better idea.
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Cut the top 3" off the door and screw it right back to the framework. When you open the door, the top section stays right in place, - - no jamb-work necessary . . .
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