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Old 03-05-2006, 04:19 AM   #1
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Death By Hardiplank


I don't want to die, so I need some help in figuring out how to cut Hardiplank. I want to use a saw -- I use one on wood all day -- because I know the kind of work I can do with one, but I really don't want to spend extra money on special filters nor do I want to live the duration of the job in a HEPA mask. However, I'm apprehensive about using shears to cut it. (I just can't imagine getting clean edges with those.) So, if you have experience with the nasty stuff and can give me a tip, I'd appreciate it.

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Old 03-05-2006, 07:58 AM   #2
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I don't want to die, so I need some help in figuring out how to cut Hardiplank. I want to use a saw -- I use one on wood all day -- because I know the kind of work I can do with one, but I really don't want to spend extra money on special filters nor do I want to live the duration of the job in a HEPA mask. However, I'm apprehensive about using shears to cut it. (I just can't imagine getting clean edges with those.) So, if you have experience with the nasty stuff and can give me a tip, I'd appreciate it.

Cut it with a chop saw and wear mask or just go commando and live forever or as long as you can.


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I don't want to die, so I need some help in figuring out how to cut Hardiplank. I want to use a saw -- I use one on wood all day -- because I know the kind of work I can do with one, but I really don't want to spend extra money on special filters nor do I want to live the duration of the job in a HEPA mask. However, I'm apprehensive about using shears to cut it. (I just can't imagine getting clean edges with those.) So, if you have experience with the nasty stuff and can give me a tip, I'd appreciate it.
Have you checked out their installation sight?

http://www.jameshardie.com/homeowner...stallation.php
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Old 03-05-2006, 09:14 AM   #4
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I saw it myself. Spend a lot of time holding my breath when using it. Usually just put a bandana around my mouth and nose and jump in (cough, cough). Never used the shears. I will admit, when cutting it, I'm always thinking, "There must be a better way!"
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Well believe me you. I have been installing this stuff since it first came out and cut it without a mask or collection device for years, I could totally feel it in my lungs, silica in that stuff, it will kill you. I purchased a Makita 71/4 saw, made for cutting the stuff, and hitched it up to my shop vac, no dust! Takes a minute to get use to it but I will never cut the stuff any other way. Seriosly, that dust WILL kill you.
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It has the dust collection "gaurd" on the saw and about 15 feet of hose for vac, plenty to do all you need to do. The shears do leave a not so nice edge.
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Iv'e been using a SCMS and hooking up my shop vac to the dust collection port. It seems to work pretty good. I have the shears and they work but you don't get the clean edge like you do with the saw.
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yeah, what he said
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It has the dust collection "gaurd" on the saw and about 15 feet of hose for vac, plenty to do all you need to do. The shears do leave a not so nice edge.
When you activate the saw does the vac automatically come on ? This is a special saw you say?
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Yes to both, special saw and the vac comes on only when the saw is running then the vac runs for maybe 5 sec. afterwards.One more thing, this saw has a bigger motor than the regular 7 1/4" saw and I cut 4-5 boards at a time.
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we use a 71/2" diamond blade in a circular saw..works like a champ..and will outlast a hundred framing blades- Kevin
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we use a 71/2" diamond blade in a circular saw..works like a champ..and will outlast a hundred framing blades- Kevin
Huh? The question was about dust. 71/4" not 7 1/2" btw. framing blades to cut hardiplank?
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"I don't want to die, so I need some help in figuring out how to cut Hardiplank. I want to use a saw "
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The shears are fine. I was apprehensive also, but now most of the custs my subs make are with shears and ya can't tell the difference.

I always asked my subs why they didn't use special filtersw or wear masks when cutting the materials. They looked at me blank in the face until I told them the dust will kill them, that's when they bought the shears.

If you do use a saw, they make special diamon blade saws specifically for cutting fibercement.
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It's after my bedtime. "SCMS" stands for ...?
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You guys ever heard or using a fan? Might sound strange but in the decking industry it is more common. The dust from Ipe is toxic so a lot of guys set up a fan next to their saw, the fan blows enough to keep the dust away from the guy cutting.
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It's after my bedtime. "SCMS" stands for ...?
Super Cool Midget Samurai - they are pretty common on the west coast these guys can cut Hardi clean with a karate chop so there is less dust.

Or it could be a Sliding Compound Miter Saw, but I'm not positive.
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Wow i didn't know it came in colors with a 15 year warranty. If i would have known that i would have went with instead of vinyl. They have a big color selection. I thought it just came preprimed.
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Super Cool Midget Samurai - they are pretty common on the west coast these guys can cut Hardi clean with a karate chop so there is less dust.

Or it could be a Sliding Compound Miter Saw, but I'm not positive.
I think your on the way Mike, however ya might want to train a little longer before ya take on the champ.

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I think your on the way Mike, however ya might want to train a little longer before ya take on the champ.

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LOL, I will never challenge you Bob, that would be too suicidal on my part!
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