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Custom Garage Doors
Okay guys, here's my question. I have a customer who wants a new garage door installed, he currently had 2 plywood reinforced doors that are starting to warp. I tried to get him a price on a regular 6 panel steel garage door but it will not fit do to low headroom issues. I could order one from the manufacturer but it will cost double what the stock door costs! So I am thinking that I can build him another set of wood doors that will last forever. Problem is I dont know what to use so it will last, not to mention that I dont know what to use for hinges because it is going to be very heavy. My RO is 99"W 84"H. He does not want to spend a lot of money because it is a row home and the garage is facing an alley. Any suggestions??
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That and a stock door, and you're money ahead. If you don't have experience and proper tools, those torsion springs can kill you. Be sure you understand that.
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
I thought that this would work too but because this is a completely flat roof, the header height is the same as the inside joists, and the manufacturer said that with the low headroom kit you still need 4" min clearance.
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
I would suggest using swamp cypress aka domestic cypress. It is light and strong looks great, rather soft though like redwood. It mills great, sands very smooth and costs less than Redwood or cedar, at least here in So. Cal. anyway and it is super bug and weather resistant..
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
Does anyone know if T1 11 would hold up for something like this? I thought if I braced it on the front with some 1x and reinforced the back with some sort of angle iron or something to keep it from twisting. Thing is that this guy does not want to spend a lot of money on this and I cant see talking him into anything much more expensive because of the location of it, just needs to be utility grade, not aesthetic.
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
Probably the direction your headed is the best he is gonna get. I wouldn't guarantee them to be forever doors to him because they won't.
One thing to remember is to bevel the tops of any vertical trim pieces to allow water to shed. You could use treated ply and 1x for rot issues but it would probably cause warpage issues. Anything other than synthetic (Azek or the like) is going to be $$$ but waterproof. Oh, and make sure you get paid before you leave.
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
J.I.T.---Does the door have
torsion springs? If it does, I can not emphasize enough...... If you don't have experience and proper tools, those torsion springs can kill you. Be sure you understand that. The questions you are asking lead me to believe that you are not very experienced with these things.
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
I don't think he has room for any springs. I think he is talking about replacing a set of swinging doors with another set of swinging doors.
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
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If his RO is 86" and the joists are flush with the bottom of the header. no way he gets ANY type of track door in there. And I agree that torsion springs can kill you, or at least ruin your day. |
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There are strange things afoot
in Ballmer alleys!
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
There is definitely no room for any type of track doors so I need to go with another set of swinging doors. I would just like to know if t1 11 will hold up in this application.
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YP. Roseburg plywood makes a clear veneer fir T-111. Yes, that would be a low cost solution. Why didn't you just say they were swinging doors? Most of the time we aren't dealing with carriage house doors you know.
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
i'm not a fan of t1-11. I would make them out of azek sheets, as someone mentioned above. make any exterior trim out of azek, then a basic interior frame to give it structural integrity. my 2 cents
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
I didnt know that azek manufactured their product in sheets, I have only ever seen it in small applications, trims etc...Would they make a 4x8 sheet or is that too much to ask for??
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Re: Custom Garage Doors
i can go to my local supply house and pick up 4x8 sheets of azek in 1/4" - 1". these are stock items for them...i would call around first
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