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Old 02-17-2009, 08:05 AM   #1
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i'm a roofer but have a question. if we get crown moulding installed inside our home,do we have to leave small gaps for expansion and contraction or just caulk the seams?

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Old 02-17-2009, 08:20 AM   #2
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?.... I install trim tight...usally cut it long and "snap" it in place.....there shouldn't be any gaps...
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:21 AM   #3
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will the crown moulding expand and contract
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it shouldn't, the installer should let it sit in your home for a few days and let it acclimate to the home...I am assuming this is remodel work....if it does move it will me minor...nothing to leave joints for... usally when wood moves on the interior all you hear about it is shrinking....so any gaps to start with would only make it worse later...

In fact there is someone here who clips the top corner of the crown behind the cope joint and forces a shim in there to futher compress the crown on itself to help ensure no shrinkage...

just make sure he does not install it like this...ask Basswood about that...lol


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Yeah, hafta say if he leaves you any gaps, he made some mistakes, and you'll get to buy them. Almost everyone (well except maybe Bass ... he Sooo good... REALLY!) cuts long and lets the inside corners bite in.
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Come on guys, give him a break. A roofer doing crown moulding. Give him some three quarter caulk, some rope if he needs it, and let him caulk it.
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what ghost said - cope those suckers and snap it in.
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Yup.
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i'm a roofer but have a question. if we get crown moulding installed inside our home,do we have to leave small gaps for expansion and contraction or just caulk the seams?

Is the house new 2 years or less or is it an older home?
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Shim your corners tight, never leave a gap.
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it shouldn't, the installer should let it sit in your home for a few days and let it acclimate to the home...I am assuming this is remodel work....if it does move it will me minor...nothing to leave joints for... usally when wood moves on the interior all you hear about it is shrinking....so any gaps to start with would only make it worse later...

In fact there is someone here who clips the top corner of the crown behind the cope joint and forces a shim in there to futher compress the crown on itself to help ensure no shrinkage...

just make sure he does not install it like this...ask Basswood about that...lol

Actually, it is good of you to post that... since that is the "roofer method" (upside down, flat, and lapped joints). All DaVinci needs to know to create a masterpiece.
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Yeah, hafta say if he leaves you any gaps, he made some mistakes, and you'll get to buy them. Almost everyone (well except maybe Bass ... he Sooo good... REALLY!) cuts long and lets the inside corners bite in.
You are never good enough to cut everything to fit the wacky stuff the framing and drywall can give you (even with good framers and drywallers). I cut the stuff a skosh long and spring the copes in tight. I also have to shim some joints tight too.

Sometimes, you have to throw every trick in the book at the job.

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm more normaler than some people suspect.

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You are never good enough to cut everything to fit the wacky stuff the framing and drywall can give you (even with good framers and drywallers). I cut the stuff a skosh long and spring the copes in tight. I also have to shim some joints tight too.

Sometimes, you have to throw every trick in the book at the job.

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm more normaler than some people suspect.

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That may be................. but as old as I am with more than four decades of doing this stuff under my belt, I recently told my wife I'd like to be able to just pick up and go work with you, gratis, for about a year. Unfortunately my work also keeps me busier than I want to be right here in Florida.

I, for 1, think you am more specialer than you think you is.
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That may be................. but as old as I am with more than four decades of doing this stuff under my belt, I recently told my wife I'd like to be able to just pick up and go work with you, gratis, for about a year. Unfortunately my work also keeps me busier than I want to be right here in Florida.

I, for 1, think you am more specialer than you think you is.
Willie,

I'm tired of the winter here in MN... I should come work with you there. If I weren't too busy with work here, that is. I think the slowdown scared me and I've ended up taking on too much (who would turn work away in this economy). Glad to have work. Hustling to get it all done.

Glad you like the work I've been doing.

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Same as all the rest!!!!
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