Cedar Shingles

mjay

In a nutshell value for money
Perfection red cedar
White cedar
Handsplit

Replacing Southside gable. There's zero shade
Any other advice welcome
Many thanks.

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KennMacMoragh

Is there a problem?

rbeck3@ec.rr.co

plant a tree?

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KennMacMoragh

Dig up the driveway and plant a 50' tree? That roof could use an over hang, would prolong the life of those shingles.

Driftwood

We'll almost! Built many homes there in the 70s. When I came West I couldn't believe the exposure. Meaning 7 " to the weather or more on 18" shingles!
Should of been 5 1/2" MAX. SHADE?????? Think about a beach house!!!
TOO MUCH EXPOSURE = CURL Drift.

Also courses are adjusted so courses run even with with window tops and bottoms EXCEPT higher bath windows! Of course 47 years ago we had GREAT teachers!
The WW 2 Guys BLESS THEM ALL~~

Driftwood

Gable ends have NO overhangs , and survive when proper exposure

genecarp

OVERHANGS, definately, cedar perfections, yes. handsplits install faster, but i like perfections...

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KennMacMoragh

That's weird they don't do that. You can see where there's an eave, the shingles aren't so worn under it. But yeah I see your point with the exposure. I think around here, 7" is standard because of the time spent putting them on. I did huge house here myself, shingle siding, 7" exposure, took me about two months.

Driftwood

Wood shingling was so common ,We all knew the tricks. When I first came to the Bay area, the other Guys were surprised at My speed. 7 " exposure on 18"
will lead to an early failure! 5 1/2" max on cape Cod .7" is common here, but
never on My job. We also did roofs with red cedar 4 1/2" MAX exposure!

neolitic

Exposure aside, have they considered
maintenance?
A coat of good oil stain every few years
couldn't hurt their longevity.

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Driftwood

Iagree cabots bleaching oil turns the shingles grey and protects. popular on Cape Code!

KennMacMoragh

Hmm, I've only ever done one house with wood shingle siding. It was about eight years ago and had 7". Never been back to see how it did though

daystoshort

this is one we did in north port maine.the sideing shingles were dipt in stane befor we put them on the roof shingles were dipt in thompsons befor we put them on. all together roof and sideing 362 sq. if the shingles are dipt you get full coverage of the stane they are not so apt to twist and bend an over hang would help.

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SethHoldren

Yeah, I cut my teeth framing out west in Montana. I love huge overhangs.

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daystoshort

me to, i think the length of the over hang makes or breaks the look of a home.

Driftwood

D.T.S. That is textbook ! Laced corners, Layed out with a story pole,I'm sure,
About 5 1/2" exposure. Neat, beautiful work. EAST COST STYLE!

daystoshort

I like to lay out the walls so i dont get that little 3'' shingle on the last corse this one layd out at 5 5/8 good eye you were close.As for those 3'' shingles we have all seen them and the sideing looks great till you look at the last corse.

Driftwood

So glad I learned My trade in Mass. in the 60s. Good role models.

daystoshort

here in maine we do alot of cedar mostly on the coast.some in NH and quite abit in MA.the younger generation like to put on vinal im not a big fan of it.i will do it if im hungry but i dont like it.

mutha potamus

The very first shingling job I did was to help my father do our house in northern Maine when I was 8 years old. Imagine the home owner policy issues today that would arise when he dipped 'em in creosote. 30 years later they're still sound and show an interesting patina shortly after rain showers.

The thing about cedar shingles in is that the old timers (regardless of what generation today reads this) could depend on them when properly (and simply) installed for rugged weatherproofing over time without having to paint or stain them. You should see some of the 100 plus year old decrepit & abandoned barns up here that I swear are only being held together by 100 plus year old cedar shakes.

Like has been said here earlier, the lap makes all the difference. I always prefer that my lap width runs so that I have two shingle laps directly underneath the bottom edge of the lap I'm placing. In a nutshell, every nail I drive goes through 3 shingles. No more than 5-3/8" for the most part.

That 7" lap might fly in the southwest, but here in the northeast, water infiltrating between laps that freezes & expands during winter is a big threat. Of course you can't forget the wet summers rain storms followed by blazing hot sun. Too much lap is guaranteed to make a shack look like it's been done in dragon scales.

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