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Old 11-01-2006, 08:17 AM   #1
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Hi, Guys easy Question for you. I'm just finishing up on a basement job and was wondering if there is an easy way to box out the columns.
I was thinking of making a two piece base and top to fit around the column and attach some 6" trim to box it out. I just started doing this type of work so any input would be great!!

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Old 11-01-2006, 09:12 AM   #2
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I have done that in the past and it works fine. There are also prefab post wraps on the market that you might want to look at.

I have also added a support around the center point of the post in the past because it was for a playroom and was probably going to take a lot of abuse (HO's request, although I did not see a need for it.) If it is a simple wrap I usually chase it around the lolly and chamfer the edges.
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Is that what you were asking? or were you looking for something else?

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That's it I thought it would be ok but it's allways good to double check.
I will put a support in the center also.

Thanks for the info.

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Basement Column Wrap Recipe:

1) Use 1x6 material to build a three-sided, "u-shaped" box to slide around column. Keep the height of this box about 3/8" in short of the floor to ceiling height. You can either chase the butts or miter the edges. Unless you have a very good TS, I do not recomend mitering because it's hard to make an 8' long perfect bevel on a small TS.
2) Slide the three-sided box around column. Attach fourth side.
3) The wrap is now loose around the column, but obviously cannot come off.
4) Shim the bottom (or top) of the wrap to make plumb and square. Shim it tight so it won't move.
5) drill 8 3/8" holes in the wrap. One on each side of the wrap 2" down from top and 2" up from bottom.
6) Use NON-expanding foam and stick the hose into each hole and shoot.
7)Trim top with crown and bottom with base.

You are done.

You can make all sorts of cool varations with rails and stiles, panel molding, etc.

Kind of like "Pimp your Column"
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There is also a company on line that makes rounded column covers...

We installed a few sets in one basment job to give a 'higher-end' touch to it. The home owner really liked the look over a basic 'box' type covering...
Look up "The Architectural Depot (DOT) com"
Under Lally or Lolly column cover..
They make cherry, paintgrade and other staingrade covers...

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Make the box and put a couple of squirts of expanding foam in it. This will solidify the box around the post and glue the box to the post. Don't over do it or it may blow the box apart. It needs to be the foam that dries hard (ie: Great Stuff) not the latex stuff for windows and doors.
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Now Leo, that is a neat idea....I would have never thought of that...the great stuff foam does have a lot of uses.
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Unless you have a very good TS, I do not recomend mitering because it's hard to make an 8' long perfect bevel on a small TS.
You're right, it's damn hard to make a perfectly staight bevel on a job site TS. I always use my 8' stabila and clamp it to the sheet and use a good shape circ with a sharp new blade, never had a bad one yet.

Another good tip, if you paint it, is to use MDO, you'll have no grain rise to sand down between coats that way. It'll even take the abuse of the out of doors.

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There is a company out of california that makes a really nice round basement pole cover. DECOR BY MADRID
www.madridinc.com
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Sounds as if you want a box, if the HO wanted a column, you could use a porch column post (wood). The finished product might be a bit more decorative, but would likely be considerably more expensive than boxing the post.
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Make the box and put a couple of squirts of expanding foam in it. This will solidify the box around the post and glue the box to the post. Don't over do it or it may blow the box apart. It needs to be the foam that dries hard (ie: Great Stuff) not the latex stuff for windows and doors.
Geez...didn't I just say that in the post above yours in step 6?

I have used the round columns from architectural depot and they are OK, but the rounded trim caps they give you are a bitch to mate properly and require A LOT of sanding.

HB&G just released a new type of column wrap I saw at a show a couple of weeks ago. It's made of PVC and can be used inside and outside. Looks like the way to go from now on. It uses lock miters.
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Geez...didn't I just say that in the post above yours in step 6?
Sort of. You said use the non-expanding foam. I think this is to soft and doesn't have the grip that the expanding does. Last time I used this trick the non-expanding foam didn't even exist yet .
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Thanks guys all great ideas but I found a wrap from Lowes that is paintable and stainable it is cut to fit and just clues right to the pole and comes with a finished top and bottom I will post pics after I paint them.

Thanks for the input,

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PVC Column wraps are the way to go now for covering old metal teleposts or PT structure.

good ones can be found at decorinnovations.ca
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The shelf was sized for a pint

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I used these to attach to the post
They work really well
These and Leo's idea with the foam makes a very sturdy structure



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You could go with a round split column,, either bought or custom made.. I made these 3 three years ago... , just split and re-assemble around the pole.
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hows about something like these
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but to simple.....I like a chalange... something diffeent....
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