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Old 06-13-2011, 09:51 PM   #1
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Cutting Walls Along Popcorn Ceiling


I am extremely confident in my painting skills, knowledge, and abilities but I am constantly getting frustrated as I try to cut the wall along the ceiling, specifically popcorn ceilings.

Along trim work, framing, and other edges I have not one single problem making a clean cut edge but nothing I do can I get a crisp edge along the ceiling. I end up spending more time perfecting and fixing the ceiling line than I do on the rest of the painting on my projects.

What do you guys do? I refuse to use those "edging" tools because I have used them before and frankly I think it is unprofessional to be using such a "tool" (that is unless you guys recommend it) Do you use a straight edge knife or something???

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Old 06-13-2011, 09:57 PM   #2
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Re: Cutting Walls Along Popcorn Ceiling


You cannot expect a perfect line with popcorn.

Some of the guys here have suggested before having the ceiling color go on the wall about a 1/2" or so. I have never used this method before but it might be what you are looking for.

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I am extremely confident in my painting skills, knowledge, and abilities but I am constantly getting frustrated as I try to cut the wall along the ceiling, specifically popcorn ceilings.

Along trim work, framing, and other edges I have not one single problem making a clean cut edge but nothing I do can I get a crisp edge along the ceiling. I end up spending more time perfecting and fixing the ceiling line than I do on the rest of the painting on my projects.

What do you guys do? I refuse to use those "edging" tools because I have used them before and frankly I think it is unprofessional to be using such a "tool" (that is unless you guys recommend it) Do you use a straight edge knife or something???

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Sometimes you just have to fake a straight line, popcorn is usually one of those times. It's the illusion of a straight line that you are looking for.

I normally start by running a 6" knife along the edge. I see a lot of guys using short stop and go strokes trying to cut in a line. You want long steady strokes, if a spot along the ceiling doesn't fill don't stop, continue your line and then go back and fill in. Sash brushes don't work well here they don't hold enough paint. I prefer a 3" wall brush like the Swan or even better a oval wall brush ..think Purdy's is called the Pip

Sometimes to get the line to look straight from the floor, it's necessary that your wall color goes into the ceiling just a frog's hair. When this is needed to get a straight looking line, it's better to go into the ceiling instead of stopping short of the ceiling angle. Looks much better from the floor view.
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Usually this comes from the sheet rock guys not going around the edges of the ceiling when finishing their walls.when in new construction we always just took a sharp edge tool and run it across the ceiling line to get all of that junk out of the line and go with it. No matter what there will be no actual straight lines when following these edges because there is no such thing as straight sheet rock lines or edges to cut through and I explain this to home owners before I start.I give them options that we can make a straight illusion of a line or follow the one that is before us. Make them sign off and go with it.
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Sometimes you just have to fake a straight line, popcorn is usually one of those times. It's the illusion of a straight line that you are looking for.

I normally start by running a 6" knife along the edge. I see a lot of guys using short stop and go strokes trying to cut in a line. You want long steady strokes, if a spot along the ceiling doesn't fill don't stop, continue your line and then go back and fill in. Sash brushes don't work well here they don't hold enough paint. I prefer a 3" wall brush like the Swan or even better a oval wall brush ..think Purdy's is called the Pip

Sometimes to get the line to look straight from the floor, it's necessary that your wall color goes into the ceiling just a frog's hair. When this is needed to get a straight looking line, it's better to go into the ceiling instead of stopping short of the ceiling angle. Looks much better from the floor view.
I'd listen to this guy, he knows what he is talking about, though I think he forgot one thing, when you paint your ceiling first bring your cut line down the wall a few inches so when you cut the wall in you can better manipulate the illusion. The pop corn will blend into the little bit of white you leave on the wall to avoid the ceiling.
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take an old fashioned can opener and drag it down the corner, should give you an easy line to follow.
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I'd listen to this guy, he knows what he is talking about, though I think he forgot one thing, when you paint your ceiling first bring your cut line down the wall a few inches so when you cut the wall in you can better manipulate the illusion. The pop corn will blend into the little bit of white you leave on the wall to avoid the ceiling.
I also agree, create an optical illusion and make your own line.
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Most ceilings aren't perfect. Depending on the ceiling. Sometimes the texture comes to far down on the wall and sometimes not enough. If looking for perfection. Scrape what you need away with a scraper or something. Then cut in a straight line.
I think getting a very very small amount of paint on the ceiling looks better than coming up short. My opinion.
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popcorn is a pain to cut we would take 6" and scrape the wall up to the ceiling removing any texture, then we would paint walls tight to ceiling, then come back in mask off top of walls and spray ceilings. when you pull your tape nice clean lines. Good luck
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Use the point on your 5-in-1 and run it along the ceiling where the ceiling meets the wall, this will give a decently straight line to cut.
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I personally feel that cutting the popcorn ceiling is easier then cutting a regular ceiling, the human eye has a harder time distinguishing the straight line of a popcorn ceiling, so I just go with it
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Re: Cutting Walls Along Popcorn Ceiling


When we first sprayed this ceiling, I took a mud knife and went around it scraping up the wall to the ceiling to get a straight line when cleaning the texture overspray off the walls. I hoped this would leave a straight line to cut into. Worked out pretty good. I did not use a wet brush for the cut in. I did some scraping of the brush on the cutin pot. Wiggle and push along, play by ear.


P.S. I mentioned the fact that I cleaned the line up at the ceiling myself to say the quality of the line at the intersection of the wall and the ceiling can can make the cutin so much easier.
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