The Cost Of Plastic

NAV

Man, the cost of plastic is killing me.

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Leo G

The cost of plastic should be making you money. And your mark up and time to apply, remove and dispose in your bid. Should be a money maker.


That is an awful lot of plastic !!

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How about a little detail on how you prepped the bar joists and roof deck ? What materials prime and finish ?

I'm not a pro painter but what about Dryfall for a job like this ? Why or why not ? Maybe it doesn't work well for rework, better for new construction where everything is primed or a good surface already ?

NAV

this job is a 53,000 sf dryfall job. they had a fire 5 years ago and a contractor came in and painted the deck with alkyd dryfall. the material failed badly.

we are now blowing down the ceiling with 2 - 650 diesel compressors running 4 blow down guns. after the blow down we are washing with 4,000 psi hot water and a Prosoco cleaning chemical. then we are painting the ceiling with alkyd eggshell dryfall from ICI.

the schedule went as fallows:
Week 1
1st shift 12 hours cover up everything
2nd shift 12 hours blow down everything
4th shift 12 hours finish blow down and start power wash
5th shift 12 hours finish wash and clean up

Week 2
1st shift Cover 1/2 the facility
2nd shift prime where needed with Tank and structural primer ICI start Dryfall painting
3rd shift finish dryfall
4th shift touchup and cleanup

Week 3 same as week 2 but on the other half

each shift is 5 men and we are working day and nigh over the weekends.

we will finish this weekend - i did figure on the cost of the 55 boxes of plastic but it still is way overpriced!!!

We will use 13 drums of dryfall

NAV

I'll have more pics next week

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Traditions2

if you powerwashed how did you deal with all the water? Are there floor drains I hope?

NAV

trench drains, it is a distribution center for a certain delivery service. trucks pull up to all the conveyor belts we have covered with plastic. out guys squeegeed the water into the drains after we pulled the plastic.

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Thanks.....

Most would use DTM. Probably had a bid or two using it. It has a flash rust inhibitor component. Many here at CT I suppose would insist on the alkyd too. Did you spec the job ? Why not DTM ?

I think I got it now ? Previous contractor used alkyd. So oil over oil.

NAV

DTM is like $30 per gallon and Dryfall is $7 per gallon. when you are using 700 gallons of material the choice is easy.

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Curious, How did you get this job ? Facil Mgt networking, web, phone book ?

What kind of warranty do you give with a job like this ?

NAV

Old fashioned cold calling. but we have had this customer for years.

No warranty on any previously coated substrate. we will go back for up to a year because its a good customer but i can not guarantee that the coating under my coating will not fail. If i was to blast the ceiling and take it down to the bare metal i could give 5 years.

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Thanks NAV.

I previously was a Plant and Facility Mgr 200,000 sq ft for a large mfg here in NC until all the work went to Mex and China. You interior looks the same as this bldg. I think I was a better FM than PM. I wonder why ?

I was a licensed contractor in MD for 10 yrs before that. Been back in the trades for a few yrs now.

I too limit my property work to 90 days and comm to 6 mo.

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WisePainter

That is a plastic wonderland...I don't miss those days. I wonder what painters were using in the early days before plastic on large jobs that need to be masked off?


EDIT: In the first picture it appears that a bit of moisture is trapped under the plastic, whut up?

sparehair

In the days before plastic they used a brush. And they painted the barn with the butcher blood.

NAV

We wet the floors so the plastic will stick and not move. It works indoors and outdoors like if you have to cover a large area (under a canopy).

that is in my new book Cover Up 101.

WisePainter

/me backs slowly away




I'll have to read that.

We alway sat the fivers from the wall paint all around the perimeter. After we finished a section the Boss made us drag the plastic to the next section, I think that is why the wet floor caught my eye.
That would have killed us.
It was heavy enough with all of the clumpy dry fall mess.

Driving a scissor lift fully extended on the 5th day of a massive deck spraying operation is about the worst eh?