Roof By A Hack

RobertCDF · 01-25-2006, 06:10 PM

Roofing done by a deck builder I am sure you guys will make fun of me. This is my second attempt at doing roofing. First time was 3 tab and that was easy it had little notches where you were supposed to overlap it was easy. Then I got this stuff, GAF something or other but no little notches?? I was lost but I think I may have gotten the hang of it. Next roofing job will include the price of a nail gun. Hand nailing sucks bad even though it was only 2 sq it still sucked.
Let me know what you guys think.

jmic · 01-25-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertCDF

Roofing done by a deck builder I am sure you guys will make fun of me. This is my second attempt at doing roofing. First time was 3 tab and that was easy it had little notches where you were supposed to overlap it was easy. Then I got this stuff, GAF something or other but no little notches?? I was lost but I think I may have gotten the hang of it. Next roofing job will include the price of a nail gun. Hand nailing sucks bad even though it was only 2 sq it still sucked.
Let me know what you guys think.

Robert,
Did you overlap the ends? Something looks strange!

RobertCDF · 01-25-2006, 06:30 PM

Yea I overlaped the ends about 6"-8" depending upon how the pattern lined up. I thought it looked kind of funny too. But I kind of guessed it might have something to do with how cold it is and the shingles not sealing down right. Its not a roof on a house or anything, its a covered deck for a business that needed something for a few years to keep rain off waiting customers. If it was a house I would have called a pro to do it. I know my limits anything that will matter I get someone who is a pro to do it.

jmic · 01-25-2006, 06:37 PM

Reread the directions,

you don't overlap them they're meant to butt one another. You have to cut starters to start with. Good practice, it's the only way you'll learn. Welcome to the School of Hard Knocks.

G.P. · 01-25-2006, 06:39 PM

Do you mean that you overlapped the side edges of the shingles? If so, the application of architecturals is essentially the same as 3 tabs. They butt to eachother as JMIC says.

Tom R · 01-25-2006, 06:42 PM

Rob, - - there's no real 'right or wrong' with the way these dimensional shingles line up, - - but you do want to keep the patterns with the seams at least 6" apart from each other, - - and just even placing them 'random' is fine, - - but by all means, - - they should 'butt' up next to each other, - - not overlap.

P.S. Load up that gun-o'-yours, - - Grumpy will be along soon!!

**Cole** · 01-25-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by G.P.

Do you mean that you over lapped the side edges of the shingles?

Yes he did, I think.

RobertCDF · 01-25-2006, 06:46 PM

See thats why I come here you guys dont hold back now I know for next time. I could read the package but that is no fun I would rather come here and get made fun of

Tom R · 01-25-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertCDF

See thats why I come here you guys dont hold back now I know for next time. I could read the package but that is no fun I would rather come here and get made fun of

The part that cracks me up is when you called yourself a hack!!

I thought you at least were going to be talking about someone else!!

RobertCDF · 01-25-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom R

The part that cracks me up is when you called yourself a hack!!

I thought you at least were going to be talking about someone else!!

I know I am a hack when it comes to something I have never done and never been taught how to do before and I just wing it.

jmic · 01-25-2006, 06:53 PM

OK, just one more comment then i'll let this go, you said you put down 2 sqs. you probably could have done the job with 4-5 bundles.

Tom R · 01-25-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jmic

OK, just one more comment then i'll let this go, you said you put down 2 sqs. you probably could have done the job with 4-5 bundles.

Seems like an 'up-charge' should be in order for the extra coverage!!

Tom R · 01-25-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertCDF

I know I am a hack when it comes to something I have never done and never been taught how to do before and I just wing it.

That's alright, Rob, - - we happen to be fresh out of 'roofing' trophies anyway, - - maybe we can locate one for 'good sportsmanship'!!

AaronB. · 01-26-2006, 09:51 AM

Ha!

Glasshousebltr · 01-26-2006, 10:32 AM

2 SQ? that's not too bad. Is this on your place or a customer? If a customer, I don't know if I could eat the egg taking it up, unless they were at work or something, but I think you should fix it, if nothing less for your own peace of mind.

If it's your place, just fix it when you get the chance.

Bob

Grumpy · 01-26-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jmic

Robert,
Did you overlap the ends? Something looks strange!

That's exactly what I was thinking. There is an overlap on the side butts.

Grumpy · 01-26-2006, 10:35 AM

Ceretainteed has a video which shows how to install their shingles, plus there are many videos you can buy on the internet whoch show the same thing.

Also I'd like to point out that a compressor on a 2 square job is nuts IMO. In the time it takes you to setup and break down the compressor you can have the roof already nailed.

RobertCDF · 01-26-2006, 06:22 PM

My compressor is almost always on the jobsite anyway all I have to do is plug it in. Its not on my house it is for a customer but it is a temp roof over a deck on a sales trailer 2yrs maybe 5 at the most before they move location. I dont see a reason to fix it, if anything its overkill and not going to "harm" the roof. It just looks a little wavy, and a little thicker.

jmic · 01-26-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertCDF

My compressor is almost always on the jobsite anyway all I have to do is plug it in. Its not on my house it is for a customer but it is a temp roof over a deck on a sales trailer 2yrs maybe 5 at the most before they move location. I dont see a reason to fix it, if anything its overkill and not going to "harm" the roof. It just looks a little wavy, and a little thicker.

Robert,
I hope that roof isn't on a sales trailer for a new subdivision, everyone will want thier roof shingled that way!

RobertCDF · 01-26-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jmic

Robert,
I hope that roof isn't on a sales trailer for a new subdivision, everyone will want thier roof shingled that way!

No, its a tree farm here is a pic of what the "porch and roof" looked like before
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2518134265.jpg&s=x4
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/2518141248.jpg&s=x4

01-25-2006, 06:10 PM	#1
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RobertCDF View Profile RobertCDF Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (4,287) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (8) View All Activity Pro Trade: Custom deck builder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 4,287	Re: Roof By A Hack Yea I overlaped the ends about 6"-8" depending upon how the pattern lined up. I thought it looked kind of funny too. But I kind of guessed it might have something to do with how cold it is and the shingles not sealing down right. Its not a roof on a house or anything, its a covered deck for a business that needed something for a few years to keep rain off waiting customers. If it was a house I would have called a pro to do it. I know my limits anything that will matter I get someone who is a pro to do it. __________________ Robert Shaw Colorado Springs Custom Decks Colorado Custom Decks Custom Composite Decks

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jmic View Profile jmic Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (3,660) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: manager of excavation division Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: danbury,ct. Posts: 3,660	Re: Roof By A Hack Reread the directions, you don't overlap them they're meant to butt one another. You have to cut starters to start with. Good practice, it's the only way you'll learn. Welcome to the School of Hard Knocks. __________________ ___"Remember You Never Get A Second Chance To Make A First Impression"______________________ Joe

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RobertCDF View Profile RobertCDF Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (4,287) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (8) View All Activity Pro Trade: Custom deck builder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 4,287	Re: Roof By A Hack See thats why I come here you guys dont hold back now I know for next time. I could read the package but that is no fun I would rather come here and get made fun of __________________ Robert Shaw Colorado Springs Custom Decks Colorado Custom Decks Custom Composite Decks

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jmic View Profile jmic Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (3,660) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (0) View All Activity Pro Trade: manager of excavation division Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: danbury,ct. Posts: 3,660	Re: Roof By A Hack OK, just one more comment then i'll let this go, you said you put down 2 sqs. you probably could have done the job with 4-5 bundles. __________________ ___"Remember You Never Get A Second Chance To Make A First Impression"______________________ Joe

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RobertCDF View Profile RobertCDF Pro Send Message Follow Blogs (0) Threads (4,287) Photos (0) Reviews (0) Projects (0) Toolbox (8) View All Activity Pro Trade: Custom deck builder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 4,287	Re: Roof By A Hack My compressor is almost always on the jobsite anyway all I have to do is plug it in. Its not on my house it is for a customer but it is a temp roof over a deck on a sales trailer 2yrs maybe 5 at the most before they move location. I dont see a reason to fix it, if anything its overkill and not going to "harm" the roof. It just looks a little wavy, and a little thicker. __________________ Robert Shaw Colorado Springs Custom Decks Colorado Custom Decks Custom Composite Decks Last edited by RobertCDF; 01-26-2006 at 06:24 PM.

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