14/12 And 12/12 Fun.

Geoff MRT

I'm sure you seasoned roofers would tackle this before lunch.

The house is circa 1890-1900.

Look at the gable on the left. We "eyeballed it" at 14/12...maybe a bit more. We could just as easily put siding on it. lol At least it's not slate...




These are pics from my phone but, if you look at the area over the new framing, there's close to 2-1/2" of roofing on there.


It's not that bad. Two layers of asphalt and the original cedar underneath. The top layer of asphalt is 3 tabs, maybe 25 years old. The next is a layer of asphalt shingles with a groove texture on them.
(maybe an old timer...oh damn...I'm an old timer too...maybe an OLDER old timer can tell me what they are)
The asphalt, both layers, came off in chunks-most no bigger than 4" square being so dry. The cedar came off in slivers and dust...LOTS of dust. I looked like a coal miner for 2 days. It took longer to remove the nails from the furring strips than to remove three layers of shingles. We've just about filled a 20 yard can and still have 5 square to rip off the back.

We left the furring strips and installed 1/2" cdx vertically. We were headed for the back roof when the customer decided she wanted to bump-out her bathroom. So, providing there are no wind storms for a few days, the felt now on the front will have to do as we tackle the back and the bathroom.

I love my job...most of the time.

WarnerConstInc.

get her to take that aluminum siding off and you could work there for 6 months. It would probably be beautiful. What are you siding the bath with? neat old house looks pretty straight.

Geoff MRT

I've got her to the edge of taking it down. Unfortunately it's steel siding. If it was aluminum, I'd do the job and sell the aluminum and take 2 weeks off...lol

She's afraid that the clapboard is trashed behind but, what I found so far is in nice shape. I told her the metal removal and repair of the original siding is much cheaper than finding matching siding and trying to weave the new stuff in with the old. Either way, it needs paint.

The place would look really nice with clapboard and an old-fashioned paint job.

WarnerConstInc.

definatley, steel would still be worth quite a bit in scrap. Repairing old clap can suck sometimes. It is alot cheaper to use polar instead of clear cedar, ouch!!!

johnk

Hardy board would look sweet!

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arconstruction

In Garden City NY most of the old Tudors are 12 to 14 pitch slate and i've had my share of 'em .....take a speed square and flip it so long side is on roof if its close to level you' close to a 12 ...14 think not , but nice job just the same

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Geoff MRT

The main house is 12, the front gable is much steeper. Same height but a few feet narrower.

tinner666

"The next is a layer of asphalt shingles with a groove texture on them.
(maybe an old timer...oh damn...I'm an old timer too...maybe an OLDER old timer can tell me what they are)"

Celotex made them special order some years back. Guess that makes me an older timer.

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Geoff MRT

Thanks. I'm guessing they're from the 50's or 60's by their style but, I'm not that familiar with shingle styles.

Ed the Roofer

That is exactly 45*, which is a 12/12 on this photo. I just threw my handy dandy pitch guage on the screen to be sure.

Ed

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Geoff MRT

I knew I should have taken a picture from inside. It's the angle in this picture. When we're up there (the shingles came today after lunch) I'll put a framing square against it. That thing is stepper than 12. Not arguing, just took a bad picture.

Ed the Roofer

It looks like a 14/12 to me, so that is why I used the Pitch Guage on it.

Ed

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Geoff MRT

Cool, I was close. I keep forgetting to gauge it when I'm there.

They're nice to roof when it's all set up...just a bitch to climb on when prepping.

72chevy4x4

hold a factory corner of a sheet of paper on the gable-it's greater than 90 degrees so the pitch is greater than 12/12. I used a architect's ruler on the picture and it comes out as a 14/12 (or slightly greater due to parallax)

shanekw1

you can tell just looking that it is greater than 90 degrees and more than 12/12

hatchet

This one doesn't look as steep because of the picture angle - but it's 14/12 on the main pitch. Upper loft all vaulted. Lower porch pitches are 4/12 and dormers and back vault are 8/12.
I didn't enjoy this one as much as I thought I would
http://www.buildmt.com/gallery/v/cli..._0316.JPG.html

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Candlewood

[quote=hatchet;469185]This one doesn't look as steep because of the picture angle - but it's 14/12 on the main pitch. Upper loft all vaulted. Lower porch pitches are 4/12 and dormers and back vault are 8/12.
I didn't enjoy this one as much as I thought I would

That looks beautiful .

curapa

Maybe our screen size and or resolutions are throwing off the image. Its definitely more the a 12/12 on my screen.