Whale Wars

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IHI

I cringe watching this show simply for the fact of the virgin factor of the entire crew aboard the steve irwin...it's scarey to think all these radicals are willing to die for the cause and the actions and lack of experience will ultimately be the cause of death..but i'm sure it will be glamourized when it does happen.....there's some great video of the steve irwin straight up running into the side of one of the harpon ships....risky for both boats that far away from anything/anybody that could offer resuce help.

The japs are just using loopholes to harvest the whales, and yes, the whale population is dropping like crazy in light of it, they just dont reproduce fast enough to keep up with the rate they're harvested. Personally i would'nt have a problem if the world government would somehow impose rules much like what the crabbers have to follow/or any professional fishermen have to abide by with certain time allotments the whale fishing could take place, and just like deer tags, only a specific number can be harvested to ensure the longevity of the species....at this rate, they'll be killed into extinction due to man.....that's pretty sad IMO. Maybe someday the right people will get involved and take a stand, and sad to say this is probably why the steve irwin is as extreme as they are with their tactics to force attention to the problem hoping somebody will finally grow tired of the antics and actually do something to police the problem.

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Whether you are for the whales or not there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things and what those kids are doing is wrong. They tread on terrorism and piracy. On one of the shows they actually boarded the whale vessel and those who went on board were charged with piracy but I never saw what happened to them. So far those kids have been extremely lucky. They complain about the agression of the whalers throwing nuts and bolts at them trying to prevent them from throwing acid onto the deck of the ship or doing something to make them "dead in the water" in the bering sea. That alone speaks volumes about these kids.

Pulling for the whalers in this situation doesn't make a person "anti-whale". Probably a better term would be "anti-terrorist", "anti-piracy" or even "anti-peta". You might even say "pro kids safety". Those kids do not have any right to do that to anyone, regardless of the situation. I have a feeling they wouldn't do this to any vessel from another country, let's say Russia, China or N. Korea.

What I have noticed is very little success of the kids. Their missions usually fail.

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catfish

If they actually boarded, they are lucky they weren't killed on the spot. The whalers would be completely within their rights if they did so.

Cdat

You are placing the life of an animal before a human? THAT to me is wrong and stupid. Go find your PETA dfriends and help 'em. I've seen whales up close and know what went through my mind? Someone has some big brass balls to hunt this thing.

Greg Di

The head of the operation (Paul) is the FOUNDER of Greenpeace.

Greenpeace kicked him out because his tactics were too wild for their liking. If that tells you anything.

The skipper is a publicity whore and is whoring it up hugely with the cameras rolling. His whole base in life is to get publicity for anti-whaling.

I only watch the show because I can't decide whose side to be on. I am no animal/PETA person, but it's clearly a farce that the Japanese are doing "research" on the harpooned whales considering they have a floating "processing" factory in the Antarctic at all times to cut and package the whale meet to sell at a profit AFTER their do their "research".

The Sea Shephard folks are a cross between Ben and Jerry's employees and student protesters. They provide comic relief most of the time. If I see them try to launch one of those RIBs and fail one more time, I'll die. They should train better if their SOLE purpose and means of acting is getting those boats in the water. Right?


As with any of these "on the job" reality shows, the editing is the ONLY thing that adds excitement or drama to the show. What I'm saying is that they tend to edit the footage and cut in dramatic "looks" and language and dialogue from crew members that is quite obviously out of sequence to the trained eye. The music doesn't hurt either.

Next thing you know, they'll have an Ice Road trucker piloting the boat and an Axeman running the rigging for the RIB launches while Edgar Hansen runs the hydros on the crane. Don't laugh.

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All ya need to do is look at TLC, they did exactly that with all their reality shows, had the "crossovers" with this show's characters showing up at that other shows house/business, etc...

The only thing that would prevent that in this case, Axmen, ice road truckers, swamp loggers, etc....are all plenty smart enough NOT to get within 100miles of that band of idiots ont he steve irwin.

Most of us understand any publicity good or bad is ultimately a good thing since it draws attention to the thing being talked about...but i'm wondering if this is going to end up doing more harm than good in the end having camera's rolling on the steve irwin?? How somebody has'nt gotten killed yet is completely beyond me.

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dougger222

I've seen all the episodes and would consider what the Japs are doing as wrong. The Japs love soup and the idea of eating endangered food in the soup must add a level of excitement. If you research the illegal hunting of rino's you'll find the Japs behind them too as they use the rino horns filings in soup. It's said that each dead rino's horn is worth around $100K on the "black market".

The quota of close to 1,000 whales per year is only allowed for research purposes and there's no doubt that they are making a lot of money off killing, processing, and selling the whale meat. It's said that each dead whale is worth around $250,000. It don't take a rocket scientist to see the opportunity to make a lot of money harvesting whales. It just so happens Japan is the primary consumer of whale meat so they have the most vested interest. It's a delicacy in Japan to eat monkey brains so that should tell you a little about there taste buds. They take the live monkey put it's head in a hole in the middle of the table and the people sitting at the table take turns hitting the monkeys head which is all you see comming out of the table until it dies. Once it's dead they take turns scooping out it's brain for dinner. Something you only want to see once. What makes you think about the whole research of killing whales is why do they package them on the Nishan Maru and prepare them in boxes and wrap them on pallets ready for consumption. If they were researching the whales why would they process them at sea? Seems a little srange to me.

The sad thing is of all the people in the world there only seems to be one in charge of actually going out to do something about this problem. Green Peace clearly don't like what the Japs are doing but they protest on dry land and not in the Arctic Circle. Paul Wattson is radiical in his thinking but desperate measures should be taken when dealing with a problem such as this. There is nothing wrong with people being passionate about protecting whales. If the Sea Sheppards were not out there nobody would be and the Japs would have a field day killing there quota of whales.

What Paul needs to do is get rid of the Dutch and find a country that would allow him to call port and be able to attack again from the Steve Irwin. Putting the two small boats in the water is dangerous.

There are a lot of things I don't agree with the Green Peace and PETA but since the whales don't have a say in this somebody has to defend them.

Greed is why the Japs are out killing whales. Paul Wattson is out there to protect the whales. There is a lot of the typical reality show drama on whale wars but all in all it's a pretty good show.

BTW, I'm not a member of the Green Peace or PETA. I like seafood, fish, and meat. My wife is a lot more passionate about protecting animals than I am and we're both republicans. What's said though is the democrats seem to be a lot more concerned with protecting animals than the republicans.

dougger222

One of the best shows I've seen recently was on the History Channel called The Samoli Pirate Take Down or something of that sort. One hour documentary of what "really happened". Tivo'd it when it first aired a couple months ago.

If you think the crew of the Steve Iwrin is stupid you gotta watch this show! Those pirates must not have made it past a 5th grade education.

Mike Finley

Okay, I like the whales, but this one thing cracked me up on the last episode I saw.

That captain had a secret code word so the Japanese wouldn't know they were launching their attack.

They said lets use Tora, tora tora as our secret word. When I say that, you will know to start your attack and the Japanese won't know what we are up to, cause we don't just want to say attack over the radio, cause then they will now we are going to attack.

Now isn't this secret code word Tora Tora Tora Japanese? Aren't the Japanese... umm.... Japanese? Doesn't Tora Tora Tora mean Attack! Attack! Attack! in Japanese?

That was freak'n funny!

Winchester

Yeah, I caught that show and thought that was pretty f'in stupid.

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dougger222

That was sort of funny on the last episode when they totally messed up the attack que.

Another thing I noticed is of all the times they've deployed the drag lines from the delta boat have they ever actually fouled a Japan prop?

There is no doubt that there is poor planning and education of how boats and attacks are made on the Steve Irwin. What they need to do is recruit some x-millitary people who know a few things about strategy and boats. Of course I think there would be very few canidates who would want to risk there lives after being paid to do so in the military. One woman on the boat now has extensive boat training and she seems to be the only one that knows anything about boats.

One person who was good to see go off the show was the first mate Peter Brown I want to say? He was a complete idiot who almost killed the boat full of people when they were doing a Delta launch. Very few people besides Paul seemed to like his first mate. Even Paul thought Peter did nothing wrong with not holding onto the line tied to the Delta boat. If none of you saw what happened it was on season one and the boat flipped next to the boat while still tied to the boat with people in it.

The crew on the boat are forced to eat vegan. There were past episodes of crew members saying they aren't vegan but are forced to eat that way while aboard the Steve Irwin.

I think vegan would be nothing that comes from any type of living things other than plants (I think). Correct me if I'm mistaken, please. They mostly eat soup, like the Japanese!!!

If you think the whalers are doing the right thing thats fine.

Cdat

The only x-military they'd be able to recruit would be terrorists.

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the big 12 inch

So...if I kill my ex-wife for "research" its o.k.?just sayin...

nailkiller1

I got tangled up with a whale one night. wow!
They are nothing to be messin around with
I am lucky to be alive