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Old 12-28-2004, 01:39 PM   #1
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WOW, I just saw that they predict the death toll will rise to over 50k people, they found 10,000 people in one single town. Truly Tragic, RIP.

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Old 12-28-2004, 01:53 PM   #2
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I read somewhere that the tsunami was tarveling at 500 MPH as it moved away from the epicenter of the earthquake. Entire fishing fleets disappeared. You gotta' wonder what other maritime losses have occurred that we haven't heard about yet.
Makes me even more thankful to live in the good ol' U.S. of A.
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Some Facts: While they cannot be seen from the air, or felt aboard an ocean-going ship, tsunamis can cause as great a loss of life and property as their other natural disaster cousins—tornadoes and hurricanes.

The speed at which tsunamis travel depends on the ocean depth. A tsunami can exceed 500 mph in the deep ocean but slows to 20 or 30 mph in the shallow water near land. In less than 24 hours, a tsunami can cross the entire Pacific Ocean.
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If you've seen the amateur footage of it, you'd get a sense of what it was like. It was like a massive incoming tide that just didn't stop coming.

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Also, while traveling at that high speed, in the deep water, it only raises a few inches. It doesn't max until it hits the shallows......makes detection and size prediction a real beeauch.


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They are up to 70,000 dead and maybe looking at it goint to 100,000 before its over.

This thing really sucks. If you think about it makes you kind of shudder. I've been on beaches on vacation and the last thing I was thinking about is a wall of water coming in 30 feet over my head because of an earthquake a thousand miles away! Talk about having your gaurd down. Its a weird feeling for me. When I do something sketchy at least at the time you know you are putting yourself in danger and you accept the risk/reward factor involved, such as diving or traversing snow in avalanche country. You do everything you can to protect yourself, have the proper equipment, do the proper techniques and you are in a mindset of realizing that you are taking your life and limb and putting them in harms way. But the whole tidal wave thing when all you are doing is snoozing on a beach sunning yourself and the most you are thinking about is if you are going to have another bahama mama or a tropical punch for your next drink, suddenly you look up and see a huge wave coming in! That just sucks the big one thinking about it.
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If the toll passes 144,000 it will become biblical.
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T I've been on beaches on vacation and the last thing I was thinking about is a wall of water coming in 30 feet over my head because of an earthquake a thousand miles away! suddenly you look up and see a huge wave coming in! That just sucks the big one thinking about it.
Forgive me for asking but am I the only one that would look like something out of a Monty Python movie if I saw the ocean suddenly begin receding 600 yards. My first reaction would be "RUN AWAY!!!" not "hey, look kids."

This thing is a tragedy of enormous proportions. Let's all say and prayer, take some clothes down to the local relief center and send a check to an appropriate relief agency.
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I don't think the world at large is really educated on what it means when the water recedes. When Hilo Hawaii was wiped out, the ocean receded and the school let the kids out to go down into the bay to collect the fish that were left on the rocks, you can imagine what happened to them. I hope it would dawn on me after witnessing the tide go out like that to run like hell, but like I said you could be in such a different mindset being in paradise that your gaurd would be down and your memory might not jive what you are witnessing until you see that wall of water coming in over the lagoon!

It's really crazy when you consider some of those south Pacific islands where the average land is only 5 to 10 feet above sea level.
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Just watched a show on ABC tonight about the whole thing, talked with first hand witnesses-some were scuba diving at the time!!! but it's so hard to comprehend the magnitude. Even with all the first hand footage tonight, the devastation is unthinkable, they were in just a few places and the damage was up and down coasts liek that everywhere. Worst part was seeing the bodies being throw in mass graves, stacked or lined up, pictures on the outside of buildings that were holding the corpses showing bloated facsial pictures so somebody might identify them. Part that really hit home they talked about the number of children that simply could'nt make it and showing parents holding their lifeless child, I cannot even fathom the mental toll all of them are going through and will have to live with after this.

One couple they interviewed said they were in their 3rd floor hotel room and up to their neck in water. Another point they brought up was that country was just coming out of a civil war and there were land mines buried all over, now they have no idea where the water washed them to, so I'm sure with the disease that will kill many more, the landmines are sure to get some also.

Very interesting program and I hope and pray things will get better for them.
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Wow, i was meaning to watch that tonight but didnt have time.
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I think America has a great oppotunity to show to the world that we care about humanity and want to help. The initial 15 mil was a slap in the face when you consider the hundreds of millions of dollars we give to lesser causes.

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Especially when a private company (pfizer) just matched the donation our country offered.

But still have to remember the war we've got going, the rebuild of that country we're picking up the tab for, the huricane damage left over in Florida, I smell a tax ncrease coming again.
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Don't get me started on the freaken UN and running their mouths about the USA not giving enough. We are the #1 donating country in the world when it comes to disaster relief and hunger. Let the freaken French and Germans donate more, they got plenty of money they got from Sadam Insane and have saved a bunch of money this year while they sit the war on terror out.

The majority of the victims are muslim, you don't see that effecting the aid pouring out of the US. I didn't see Syria sending any cash to the families of victims of 9-11.

Americans privately will donate more money and goods to the relief than most of the countries governments across the world. Amazon.com has already collected 2.5 million dollars! There are 12 major relief orginization of US origin that are already over 15 million in donations.

Bashing the US government based on percentage of gross national income is ridiculous. Show me in writing where it is written that charity is based on a percentage of your gross product. I never knew that 2% of GNP was acceptable for Tidal Wave relief. What is ist 1.5% for earthquakes, 2.1% for volcanos, .05% for tornados, somebody ought to publish the numbers so the rest of the world can do the same.
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Well said Mike :Thumbs:

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I think America has a great oppotunity to show to the world that we care about humanity
I think there isn't a day goes by that America doesn't show the world - whether they're grateful for it or not. You want to see a humanitarian disaster? Imagine what would happen if we pulled the plug on all the foreign aid (private and public) that flows out of America without trumpets and fanfare. Thank God most people who care to give don't require a press release to do it.
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America does alot for other countries. I know this. Whether the other countries like or not, in some instances. Our history is a short one, unfortunately it is filled with wars and slavery and greed. I think it's about time we as a nation take the high road in this situation and plant the seeds in the minds of these people, who happen to be largely Muslim, that America is good and blessed. You talk about stingy, yes this administration was stingy in my estimation, but the people of America aren't; not with their time, money or dedication to help others in need.
That has been proven time and again.
I can't believe that at a time like this some of us can't put our differences aside, but instead, we revert to theocratic or political bickering. It was a Tsunami for crying out loud, a big one. Let's help those poor people any way we can.

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I can't believe that at a time like this some of us can't put our differences aside, but instead, we revert to theocratic or political bickering.
I think you should copy that and send it to the UN and the asshole that made the statement directed at the US about being stingy.

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Our history is a short one, unfortunately it is filled with wars and slavery and greed.
I won't apologize for a single day of America’s history. What is done is done, looking back and critizing circumstances that happened in the past based on our current morals and ethics is ridiculous. Today slavery is looked at as bad, 200 years ago it was accepted. To beat ourselves with prayer beads about something we did in the past based on today's rhetoric is senseless.

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I think it's about time we as a nation take the high road in this situation and plant the seeds in the minds of these people, who happen to be largely Muslim, that America is good and blessed.
America has been taking the high road for as long as I can remember, the difference is people like yourself believing what others say about America instead of knowing what is true and you live here. We build a school in Iraq for their children to go to and some ass hole over there blows up 30 people because America is evil and if we were truly good he says we should have built 2 schools.

America hasn't changed, we have always taken the high road, but if you base your perceptions of your country on the propaganda of your enemies you of course are going to believe your country has room for improvement. Stop listening to our detractors and start looking around. Listen to the troops in Iraq when they come home, hear what they tell you the people they interact with everyday are telling them, and stop listening to Al Sadr to get your information about what the US is doing.

God Bless America and screw anybody else who doesn't like us. Especially the French, the only thing they have proved being good at is falling down when somebody socks them in the nose.

End of rant. Sorry if I hijacked the thread.
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My ass would have been running like a little girl
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Ahhhhhhh....wtf would be going through your head seeing that thing coming into land that fast!!!! I have'nt seen that picture before, what a shot!!!!

That one video where it shows everybody on the beach as the wave is coming in, makes you wonder if any of them made it. Also after listening to those folks snorkeling/scuba diving I wonder what that was truely like and if they had a better chance then the folks on land-scuba divers that is with the air tanks. The one gal said they were diving around 20 meters and when the wave came, it sucked them down to 40 meters before they knew what was going on and everything just got dark.

Great picture :Thumbs:
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114,000 people are confirmed dead as of today.
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