Remenber The Demolition Treasure Finds?

MVH

This guy hit the jackpot:
http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=456&sid=1309240

Mike

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Tscarborough

The contractor is an ass.

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deckman22

I agree, whatever is found in someone's house belongs to them not some contractor doing work there.

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Cole

My thoughts exactly!

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wackman

Especially an old friend. I'd be very happy with the 10% offer and might refuse that even. Jerk.

L. B. Condulet

I'm a fundamentally dishonest person, that's why I became a contractor. If I found that money, I would have kept my mouth shut. I'm only saying what many of you are thinking...

MVH

Thank you for being honest.

Mike

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Bill

Where does this contractor live? Maybe I could go to his house and "FIND" a few things myself

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joasis

You are actually saying you are basically dishonest? Does it bother you to have no ethics? I really hope you are kidding.

Amazing what simple greed will do to people. It is simple....it is not the contractor's property, to take anything more then offered is a shakedown.

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K2

The money was not part of the structure so the previous owner may have some claim to the money. Or any owners before that. If the house was ever part of an "estate in probate" the State may have some claim to that money. If the money is thought to be part of some illegal activity the Feds may claim rights to the money.

Those guys should have split the dough and kept their mouths shut.

I found some gold in a house I own and knew there was only one previous owner and she had passed. I also knew her estate went to the State of Colorado. I carefully put the gold back where I found it, covered it up and will let some owner in the future deal with it.

L. B. Condulet

Well, it's complicated. There was a time when I did have ethics. But I discovered that being ethical put me at a distinct disadvantage since most people I dealt with lacked ethics.

Let's say that as a child your parents taught you how to play chess. They taught you all the rules and you learned how to play according to those rules, then you grow up and begin playing chess with other people that you meet, you discover that you lose almost every game because other people don't follow the rules you learned as a child.

I guess I'm a realist. In this story the homeowner was unaware that all this money was hidden in his walls. Yes, even though he is unaware of the money, the money does belong to him, but it just so happens that I like money. A lot.

There's a story here in Los Angeles, about a telephone company lineman. He climbed a pole that was in a large, vacant lot covered with tall grass. From his vantage point atop the pole, he saw a canvas bag hidden in the foliage. He climbed down and investigated, it contained about $400,000 of untraceable money from an armored car heist that happened about a year earlier. He was handicapped by his ethics and was compelled to notify the authorities of his find.

What would you have done? Keep the money? Call the police? What if the canvas bag contained 4 million dollars?

If you found a dead man by the side of the road and he had $10 in his pocket, would you take it? I wouldn't. But what if he had $100,000 in his pocket? I would take the money and walk away and never mention the body I discovered.

I'm sure most guys here would do the same.

Ethics are dynamic, they are fluid. Most ethical people will act unethically if there is enough money at stake. It's just human nature. Once you come to terms with this reality, you will understand that ethics is just a word and is totally subjective in nature.

K2

Yeah if someone comes up to me yammering how ethical they are I usually double check to see that my wallet is in place and try to get it a little deeper in the pocket.

neolitic

It's all moot now.
They've both got lawyers.
The lawyers will get the money.

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neolitic

Can one "honestly" claim to be dishonest?

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L. B. Condulet

People are not one thing or the other. People are sometimes honest and other times dishonest, just as they are sometimes kind and sometimes cruel. It really depends on their particular mood at any particular time.

People cannot be labeled one way or the other. People are complicated and when you judge someone, you can only capture them in a snapshot in time and judge their behavior at that unique moment.

K2

Man , we need a philosphy section.

Brian

This is simply untrue.

Dishonesty is the evasion of reality. To say that "people are sometimes honest and other times dishonest" is an evasion in and of itself. Speak for yourself.

An individual's actions and words reveal their character. If someone is dishonest at any time, he is a dishonest person. I do not trust such people.

To say that we cannot label people is to say that there are no principles by which we can act or judge. Which means we can't judge bin Laden, Hitler, or anyone else. I completely reject such skepticism.

It is never realistic, practical, or moral to be dishonest. Reality can be very vindictive.

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L. B. Condulet

Let's take a policeman for example. One day this policeman risks his life to save a family from their burning house. He throws caution to the wind and without regard for personal safety he saves a family from certain death. This is a very noble deed.

The following day our policemen pulls over a car driven by a black man. Did I mention our policeman hates black people? He taunts the driver and beats him with his nightstick and arrests him for assaulting a peace officer, a totally fraudulent charge.

Is the police officer a hero? Some people think so. Is he a villain? Other people think so. Is he a good person who sometimes does bad, or a bad person who sometimes does good?

You say that "If someone is dishonest at any time, he is a dishonest person". The fact is, all people lie, cheat and steal, to one degree or another. Dishonesty is a component of human behavior that cannot be eliminated. I compare dishonesty to sexual desire. We acknowledge that we have sexual desire, it is part of being human, but we pass laws that restrict how we fulfill our sexual desires. By the same token, we pass laws that restrict how we fulfill our desire to be dishonest.

People aren't so easily labeled. Someone may spit on the homeless in the morning and rescue an injured animal in the afternoon.

TimelessQuality

L.B.'s kinda hot today...

Ahren

He's got a point. If Hitler were to bring his mother flowers every Sunday, it wouldn't make him a good person.

I consider myself a pretty honest and ethical person, but the other day, I pulled into a Walgreens, and when I opened my door, there, right next to my truck, was a crisp $50 bill. Was I going to bring it in and leave it with the desk so whoever lost it could come back and claim it?

F that!

It went right in my pocket.


As far as the OP, they could have worked something out. They're really going to throw away their friendship and get lawyers involved? Gimme a break. Greeeeedy.