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Old 01-01-2008, 06:38 PM   #1
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Illegal Immigrant's Message To Other Wannabe Workers

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Illegal immigrant's message to other wannabe workers: Stay put

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Dec. 26, 2007 11:28 AM

MEXICO CITY - Lorenzo Martinez, an illegal immigrant who has lived in Los Angeles for six years, has a message for his kin in Mexico's Hidalgo state: Stay put.

The steady construction work that had allowed him to send home as much as $1,000 a month in recent years had disappeared. The 36-year-old father of four said desperation was growing among the day laborers with whom he was competing for odd jobs.

Sporadic employment isn't the half of it. Martinez said anxiety also was running high among undocumented workers about stepped-up workplace raids, deportations and increasing demands by U.S. employers for proof that they were in the country legally.

"Better not to come," Martinez said of anyone thinking about crossing into the U.S. illegally. "The situation is really bad."

That message seems to be getting through. There are numerous signs of a slowdown in illegal immigration.


* A recent survey by Mexican authorities shows that fewer Mexicans say they are planning to seek work outside the country. In the third quarter of 2007, about 47,000 said they'd be packing their bags. That's down nearly one-third from the same quarter a year earlier.


* U.S. border authorities arrested just under 877,000 illegal crossers in fiscal 2007, which ended in September, down 20 percent compared to the year before. A drop in apprehensions is often interpreted as a sign that fewer migrants are attempting the trip.


* The growth rate of the U.S. Mexican-born population has dropped by nearly half to 4.2 percent in 2007 from about 8 percent in 2005 and 2006, according to an analysis of census data by the Pew Hispanic Center.


* Employment of foreign-born Hispanics increased at a slower pace in the first quarter of 2007 than during the same period in the previous three years, according to Pew. The slowdown was particularly noticeable in the construction industry. Growth in employment of foreign-born Hispanics in that sector was 10.9 percent early this year, compared to an average first-quarter growth rate of 19.8 percent from 2004 to 2006.


* The growth in remittances sent to Mexico has dwindled to a trickle. Through October of this year, Mexicans living abroad sent $20.4 billion home to their families, a 1.3 percent increase over the same period in 2006, according to Mexico's central bank. Those sums were growing in excess of 20 percent annually just a few years ago.

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Old 01-01-2008, 07:18 PM   #2
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You think it's good news that we have trashed our economy to the point that workers see Mexico as the place to be?

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You think it's good news that we have trashed our economy to the point that workers see Mexico as the place to be?

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i agree with Jim ... this isn't "good" news Mickey, though I appreciate where you're coming from
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The economy is and always will be cyclical. Nobody has 'trashed' anything now more than has been done all through our economic history.

and I would say
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Sporadic employment isn't the half of it. Martinez said anxiety also was running high among undocumented workers about stepped-up workplace raids, deportations and increasing demands by U.S. employers for proof that they were in the country legally.

"Better not to come," Martinez said of anyone thinking about crossing into the U.S. illegally. "The situation is really bad."
is exactly what we should be applauding.

I'm hoping to see a wave of state level legislation cracking down on US employers as we have seen so far in AZ and OK, since like I've been saying for years, remove the reason to come here and the illegals will 'self-deport' themselves.
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I'm wondering about the authenticity of this "article." If the source is the LA Times, why does a search of LATimes's website show nothing of it, and the link, leads to "azcentral?"
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Thanks for the day-brightener, Mick.
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Here's the article from the LA Times. Googled it in .11 seconds.


http://http://www.latimes.com/la-fi-migrate26dec26,0,940088.story?coll=la-home-center

Seems we have found a good solution to the problem.
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Here's the article from the LA Times. Googled it in .11 seconds.


http://http://www.latimes.com/la-fi-...la-home-center

Seems we have found a good solution to the problem.


I clicked on the link, and it took me to a search page from google.
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The link is fixed.
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Here's the article from the LA Times. Googled it in .11 seconds.


http://http://www.latimes.com/la-fi-migrate26dec26,0,940088.story?coll=la-home-center

Seems we have found a good solution to the problem.

Thanks, framerman. I had tried, at the latimes website, using their search, and didn't find it.
Maybe there's hope, after all. if they don't get jobs, they'll quit coming.
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It's no longer the work Americans won't do, it's the work Americans can't do, because it's no longer there.

What a great strategy. Let's drive ourselves into a full-blown recession so we can really start seeing some numbers.
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That's some of the best news I've heard in a long time.
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that's weird. I've never seen a website address that says "http://http://....."

Well, thanks for fixing the link. I check them after I post to make sure they work. something must've gone screwy.
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Well I haven't seen any decline in the number of illegals at the local HD when I drive by there. Y'all think it's bad where you live try it in Texas, they are everywhere here. What makes it worse it the city government helps these people with all sorts of programs & to top it off it's a "safe zone" from the immigration services. When I travel to other cities I see those green trucks a lot, but never here in Austin.
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Well I haven't seen any decline in the number of illegals at the local HD when I drive by there. Y'all think it's bad where you live try it in Texas, they are everywhere here. What makes it worse it the city government helps these people with all sorts of programs & to top it off it's a "safe zone" from the immigration services. When I travel to other cities I see those green trucks a lot, but never here in Austin.

I hear ya, deckman!!!

Igrew up here and seen the changes from being a small section of east austin, to all of east Austin, South Austin, moving into SW Austin, going up North, and especially NE Austin and Manor. Even Tarrytown has it's population, of live in house keepers, and landscapers.
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My old boss, met him 20 years ago when he was 50 told me growing up in Texas in the construction field, you better know how to speak spanish. I'd say that's been around for a long time down there. I feel bad for your situation. Sad it takes the rest of the nations attention to pay attention to your plight.
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My old boss, met him 20 years ago when he was 50 told me growing up in Texas in the construction field, you better know how to speak spanish. I'd say that's been around for a long time down there. I feel bad for your situation. Sad it takes the rest of the nations attention to pay attention to your plight.

Yep,there were actual 2nd and third generation Mexican families in Galveston back in the seventies,I remember one real good Mexican Restaurant over by the University.Parents didn't speak English,daughter was mui bonito,food was great.
One GC(second generation) we got a lot of work from, was building up most of the two sub divisions we worked in.It was only natural for him to be in this field.He knew the right people and got in before the big growth spurt in the 70"s.He owned the largest house in one division.The two guys that ran our Construction Co. were from Austin,but the market was on the coast at that time.
The only illegals we saw were the roofers back then,nailing on cedar shake roofs at $8/sq.The old man would be doing his thing on the roof,and the rest of the family hung out on the job site with him.
There's got to be a lot of second and third generation families there,probably following the work.I wonder if the illegals will be getting pressure from their own because of the new housing drop.
Has Austin started growing recently,or has this been a gradual influx?A couple of my subs bought a couple of homes there as an investment a few years ago,something about generating work for a slow local economy?I think they paid about $125,000 for a 12-1400sq/ft home.


Some illegals can be very enterprising:

Jose and Carlos are panhandling at the freeway offramp each holding a sign.

Jose drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage free house and has a lot of money to spend. Carlos only brings in $2-3.00/day.

Carlos asks Jose how he can bring home a suitcase full of $10 bills every day. Jose responds, "Look at your sign. It says, 'I have no work, a wife & six kids to support!'"

Carlos looks at Jose's sign. It reads: "I only need another $10.00 to move back to Mexico!"
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