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Old 09-18-2018, 11:34 PM   #181
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Old 09-19-2018, 12:19 AM   #182
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Where did Jr. state that this photo was from Florence? As far as I can tell, he didn't.

But what he did...was comment and post a picture showing how they, CNN exaggerate things, especially if it makes Trump look bad. I believe they even had two weather-people, standing in the storm saying illegal aliens were afraid to go to the shelters for fear of being deported, even though ICE made it clear they would not be arresting anyone.

A few of us posted a few of the pictures showing how these people covering the storms exaggerate the storms. It was to prove they exaggerate/lie.

CNN is relentless in their lambasting Trump...even in the middle of a hurricane, where no lambasting was necessary.

I think Cooper stated during that shoot, he couldn't have gotten to the house behind him because he would have been up to his neck in water. Well, probably, if you stayed in the ditch but, if you walked on the street...you would have been fine..
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He's your President for the next 6 years whether you like it or not.


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Where did Jr. state that this photo was from Florence? As far as I can tell, he didn't.

But what he did...was comment and post a picture showing how they, CNN exaggerate things, especially if it makes Trump look bad. I believe they even had two weather-people, standing in the storm saying illegal aliens were afraid to go to the shelters for fear of being deported, even though ICE made it clear they would not be arresting anyone.

A few of us posted a few of the pictures showing how these people covering the storms exaggerate the storms. It was to prove they exaggerate/lie.

CNN is relentless in their lambasting Trump...even in the middle of a hurricane, where no lambasting was necessary.

I think Cooper stated during that shoot, he couldn't have gotten to the house behind him because he would have been up to his neck in water. Well, probably, if you stayed in the ditch but, if you walked on the street...you would have been fine..
Did you watch the whole video?
Nothing exaggerated in it. The water was that deep. The road was elevated.
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C'mon man, don't make this a political thing. Other people will.

There was a really ****ty situation in NC and SC. The media hypes **** all the time. That's not political, it's a state of affairs. Let's not sink into that abyss about real suffering with real people.

That kind of nonsense belongs in another place around here.


I didn't post jr.'s tweet on here to claim MSM is phony.
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Did you watch the whole video?
Nothing exaggerated in it. The water was that deep. The road was elevated.
So I can go and stand in my pond and claim it's flooding? or just that I am stupid for standing in a pond?
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Did you watch the whole video?
Nothing exaggerated in it. The water was that deep. The road was elevated.
Uh, I don't think so.....
If that's the case, the building on the right is elevated also.
But it looks to be on the same plane as the crew.

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Uh, I don't think so.....
If that's the case, the building on the right is elevated also.
But it looks to be on the same plane as the crew.

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If you think that was exaggerated go take a look at what was left of Texas after that hurricane. A guy standing in waste deep water isn't really exaggerating.

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May God have mercy on our country.
We could have had hellery and then the entire country could be run like NJ. That's a scary thought.
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If you think that was exaggerated go take a look at what was left of Texas after that hurricane. A guy standing in waste deep water isn't really exaggerating.

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Water seeks it's own level. And if you have divets or low areas they are going to be with deeper water. It's all about above or below sealevel altitudes on how deep the water is.

If you have a 10' ditch and the surrounding area is 10' above sea level and the water level is 12' above sea level then the ditch will have ditch will have 12' of water and the surrounding area will have 2'
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No one is questioning water being very deep.

People are questioning Andersen Cooper exaggerating it by standing in a ditch instead of on a roadway.

I think it's the same worldwide....low spots fill up before high spots. He purposely went into a low spot to exaggerate water levels.
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And then they took a close shot to make people think that is what the whole area is like.

Just like when they have a 100 protesters and they keep the people close together and the camera tight on the people it makes the place look crammed with people. But you pull back and all you see is 100 people crammed together in this big open area.
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Zackly....

I would expect someone will post pictures/video of what that area where he was standing looks like when dry.
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If the surrounding objects (building, mailbox, dumpster in the background) and camera people are not on the actual road usually attached to such things, and he's either kneeling or in an area (see what looks marsh plants?) below the road, where is he staging from?

Because the media has done this so much (faking storm intensity, being in boats when people walk by, etc.), for whatever reason, they've created their own credibility problem that makes people now scrutinize more than the "money shot"....

People don't generally like to be lied to or misled by those who are supposed to be coming from a point of credibility...

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If the surrounding objects (building, mailbox, dumpster in the background) and camera people are not are the actual road usually attached to such things, and he's either kneeling or in an area (see what looks marsh plants?) below the road, where is he staging from?

Because the media has done this so much (faking storm intensity, being in boats when people walk by, etc.), for whatever reason, they've created their own credibility problem that makes people now scrutinize more than the "money shot"....

People don't generally like to be lied to or misled by those who are supposed to be coming from a point of credibility...
This is also dangerous when telling people to evacuate now or "you will die and your children will die".

People see more and more of this false reporting through actual video and pictures and it affects how they handle the next, possibly deadly storm.

The media should not be crying wolf...for ratings.

This is not political...it's directly related to an aspect of hurricanes and how they are covered and portrayed.
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he is standing in a hole, why not just make a fake set in Atlanta in a pool and save everyone time. By showing the buildings underwater we see how deep it is no need to make it more dramatic than needed for ratings
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I think the media has to over-dramatize storms like Florence and make it seem close to Katrina and show what the conditions are and what can be expected during recovery. Fortunately, the damage and lives lost from Florence were far less than Katrina (20' to28' storm surge). The area inland from where Florence came in can expect a long time of "camping out" and rebuilding for months. The recovery will be long and is not a simple as expected.

I responded to an ad in January after Katrina to be a "Loss Verifier" for the government (not FEMA). Katrina hit Gulfport, MS the previous August. I was there to replace people that had to work 60 to 80 hours a week for 4 months previously. When I got there, rooms were rare and some non-local recovery people (contractors and volunteers) commuted up to 100 miles one-way daily. Some had to buy materials directly from factories and store them on a rented site with a 24 hour armed guard and dogs.

The government got a room for me in a 4 or 5 story building. The first floor was uninhabitable (one had a car the lobby until a week before my arrival and a car still in the pool behind). The relocated office was on the second floor and most of the rooms on the third floor could not be rented and I was in the top floor with no elevator. No TV, but I did have phone and internet hook-ups for 2 computers (one personal and one government) and my printer. Obviously, no vending machines or anything else.

Even 4 months later the storm, it was hard to get food from drive-ins and typically the lines early in the morning were blocks long because of the difficulty to get health inspections to open the kitchens. Many organizations opened up outdoor eating facilities served by outdoor grills using disposable plates and plastic knives and forks.

The facilities at a local airbase was opened to disaster recovery personnel (government, church and other volunteer groups) for shower facilities and the distribution of box lunches because food was hard to get and the waiting was long.

The big storm events are costly to everyone and upset the lives of more people than can be expected or anticipated. The recovery is very slow because the entire chain of supplying materials, labor and other services must be rebuilt. Everything becomes a commodity. Because of the amount of damage and building there, the remaining previous businesses cannot cope with the scope of the rebuilding. - The added construction is totally beyond the local capacity. Any non-local contractors that expect to come in and make a "killing" because of their capabilities and the limited materials available.
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There are a lot of groups from here getting ready to go down next week I think to do demolition on the flooded houses, all volunteers. They can gut a house in a little over an hour, putting everything on the front lawn. Groups of 20 or so, same as with Hurricane Sandy.

There is a lot of damage but being on the East Coast a lot more volunteers close by
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Hey Folks, Florence came almost up my driveway. My house didn't fair too bad. Not much flood damage right around except for end of my street at our boat ramp. 121 Radford Lane, Newport, NC on google maps. Just got power back yesterday and internet/tv back this morning.

Need new roof and some trees/debris hauled off. Little drywall repairs.

Just came back from Emerald Isle beach finishing un-boarding windows on the beach and providing estimates for some deck & stair work. Many of them are completely washed away.

All around me folks suffered much more damage. I need drywall folks and roofers. My usual subs are also out with damage.


I am a licensed General Contractor in NC. Residential and commercial up to $500,000. My phone has been ringing off the hook but I don't have a crew. I'm just having to tell people call the next guy on the list...

I also was just starting an 2000sf spec house that sold right before the storm. I have the lot cleared and ready for footers, slab prep, rough plumbing. Of course my licensed sub plumber is out for a while. Building Inspection office just opened back up today for this permit. No permits needed for re-roofs, drywall, non-structural repairs.

Geez. I am "mommicked" as they say round here.

Any advice? Anyone want to come to the NC coast? I don't even know how this would work....I do have a 37' 5th wheel with one queen bed and a large living room floor...just have to find a spot to hook it up...

Let ask again...any advice?
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