Priming over wallpaper? - Contractor Talk - Professional Construction and Remodeling Forum

metomeya · 11-19-2006, 11:05 PM

I keep hearing that you should use a oil based primer over wallpaper cause water base could rewet the glue and cause it wrinkle or lose adhesion.

Is this true?

Also wouldn't a shellac based primer do better since the denatured alcohol evaporate faster than oil or water?

**ProWallGuy** · 11-20-2006, 12:09 AM

I just plain wouldn't prime over it at all.

chris n · 11-20-2006, 08:23 AM

Just remove the paper

http://www.wallpaperinstaller.com/wa...stripping.html

chris n · 11-20-2006, 08:25 AM

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Tim that is a lot of posting,I am thinking you have been here awhile!

copusbuilder · 11-20-2006, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by metomeya

I keep hearing that you should use a oil based primer over wallpaper cause water base could rewet the glue and cause it wrinkle or lose adhesion.

Is this true?

Also wouldn't a shellac based primer do better since the denatured alcohol evaporate faster than oil or water?

My painters have primed over paper for years with no ill effect. Of course we try to remove but if it becomes ridiculous we will prime ,float ,prime,texture and paint.

metomeya · 11-20-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by copusbuilder

My painters have primed over paper for years with no ill effect. Of course we try to remove but if it becomes ridiculous we will prime ,float ,prime,texture and paint.

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But what kind of primer did they use? Water? Oil?

Stripping just seems like it would be such a pain.

JNLP · 11-20-2006, 03:52 PM

I've only painted over wallpaper once, as they insisted, and it bubbled up bad when I checked back on it. Was with latex primer.

Removing wallpaper isn't all that bad. Never did much of it until the past 6 months. It's as simple as soaking it & scraping off.

ron schenker · 11-20-2006, 05:51 PM

I've had good success using one of those hand held rollers that puts little holes in the wallpaper then I spray warm soapy water on it. Sometimes just the warm soapy water will do the trick

copusbuilder · 11-22-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by metomeya

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But what kind of primer did they use? Water? Oil?

Stripping just seems like it would be such a pain.

Always been oil. Sometimes you just do more damned damage removing the paper.

MattCoops · 11-23-2006, 02:06 AM

if paper is a pain to get off

why not texture over and paint

theres a pic of some stucco we did over bath wallpaper in our gallery on our website: http://www.cupantileandpaint.com/gallery.html

AAPaint · 11-23-2006, 02:19 AM

I'm not one that's down with priming or painting over wallpaper at all. Removal is the key.

jack75 · 11-23-2006, 11:36 AM

Painting over wallpaper decreases the house's value..

metomeya · 11-23-2006, 05:37 PM

not if they don't know

Dave Mac · 11-23-2006, 05:47 PM

Remove it if possible, other wise, oil primer is safe, I have herd good things about a product called guards, i think its a clear coat, water clean up.

again always try to strip it first, best way to go imo

**Teetorbilt** · 11-23-2006, 08:46 PM

Whatever you do, eventually the paper will let go at seams or bubble. THEN try and get it off!

Stripping paper isn't that big of a deal. Do the job right the first time.

Burpaz Painting · 03-18-2007, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Mac

Remove it if possible, other wise, oil primer is safe, I have herd good things about a product called guards, i think its a clear coat, water clean up.

again always try to strip it first, best way to go imo

the product is gardz, is from zinsser, is very good, once yo remove the wallpaper, sand the walls properly, put one coat of gardz, and paint, and no bubles problems for the glue, no pain removing the glue, even if you have to skim coat, you can do the same, i did it several times and worked great

mushogi · 03-27-2007, 04:11 PM

Zinsser do a latex wallboard and wall paper primer.Does a great job and easy clean up.