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08-10-2006, 07:38 AM
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New Guy
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alkyd primer or not
Hello,
I am in the process of removing wallpaper (this is a first for me) from a room in a basement. I will skim coat the wall to even out the surface after removal of the paper. The wallpaper hanger requested that I use ALKYD PRIMER for the walls to prepare for new wallpaper.
Do I really need to use an alkyd primer?
Since this is in a basement with not a lot of ventilation, I'm wondering how important it is to use alkyd primer instead of a water based primer?
Thanks
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08-10-2006, 10:16 AM
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Not sure why the hanger wants an alkyd. Back in the day before the VOC laws changed the formulation of oils, it was nice to hang over. But not anymore. The alkyd primers don't tend to dry as hard as they used too. So, I don't hang over alkyd anymore. But, if the hanger requested it, do it, and put the liability of his paper job in his lap, not yours.
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08-10-2006, 05:59 PM
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My custom title
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I'll defer to dude.. he's famous ya know. 
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08-10-2006, 06:17 PM
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MODERATOR
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C'mon now, I'm not the dude, I'm the guy. 
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08-10-2006, 06:28 PM
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New Guy
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Thanks Pro Wall Guy.
This job is turning into a real nightmare, no primer or paint on drywall so it's tearing up the drywall paper in some areas as I peel away the wallpaper. It's slow going but the h.o. and I guess the paper hanger wanted the wallpaper off. The guy I'm working with has been skim coating the walls but he may end up doing 3 coats of mud to build up areas where the drywall paper was tearing.
Anyone with suggestions on how to treat drywall that has large areas of torn paper? Problem is it tends to bubble if you coat mud over these areas.
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08-10-2006, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cowtown
Anyone with suggestions on how to treat drywall that has large areas of torn paper? Problem is it tends to bubble if you coat mud over these areas.
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Simple fix. After removing the w/c, apply a coat of GARDZ. This will eliminate the bubbling, and making the skim coat go easy as pie.
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08-10-2006, 11:23 PM
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Painting Contractor
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Originally Posted by ProWallGuy
Simple fix. After removing the w/c, apply a coat of GARDZ. This will eliminate the bubbling, and making the skim coat go easy as pie.
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I would have thought you would have suggested Gardz for the whole job...
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08-10-2006, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Humble Abode
I would have thought you would have suggested Gardz for the whole job...
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Personally, I would have. I love to hang over Gardz. But it ain't my job, and the hanger asked for oil............. 
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08-10-2006, 11:46 PM
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Painting Contractor
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Use Gardz and don't tell him, then listen to him rave about how well it went
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