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Bertram33 · 12-07-2008, 10:37 PM

Wow! I just used this stuff and it's nice. Really dramatic finish and super easy to apply. Has anyone else tried it yet? I think I charged way to little to do the job. It's made by Behr and sold at Home Depot. Already have another job lined up, her sister saw it and wants it in the bathroom and bedroom.

WisePainter · 12-08-2008, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertram33

Wow! I just used this stuff and it's nice. Really dramatic finish and super easy to apply. Has anyone else tried it yet? I think I charged way to little to do the job. It's made by Behr and sold at Home Depot. Already have another job lined up, her sister saw it and wants it in the bathroom and bedroom.

DecksEtc · 12-08-2008, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertram33

Wow! I just used this stuff and it's nice. Really dramatic finish and super easy to apply. Has anyone else tried it yet? I think I charged way to little to do the job. It's made by Behr and sold at Home Depot. Already have another job lined up, her sister saw it and wants it in the bathroom and bedroom.

You've seriously got to be kidding us, right?

This your 4th post and 3 of the 4 have been praising Behr paint.

I've learned from the PROFESSIONAL painters on this forum that Behr paint is crap. Do you really think you're going to come here and convince anyone that Behr paint is "the best". Also, you don't need to tell us that it's sold at Home Depot - we all know where that crap is sold.

Just fess up and admit you work for HD or Behr and get it over with

**genecarp** · 12-08-2008, 07:35 AM

It has finally become clear to me why i joined CT---I have been patiently been waiting for you to show up, fail to introduce yourself, and immediately begin to recomend an inferior product. welcome to CONTRACTOR talk!!!!!!!!!!

Bertram33 · 12-11-2008, 06:53 PM

xxx

**ProWallGuy** · 12-11-2008, 09:14 PM

Bertam, please take a minute to read our Rules on posting here.

Especially the first one which reads:

Users shall treat each other with respect at all times on ContractorTalk.com. Name calling, personal attacks, or other inappropriate behavior will not be allowed and may cause your account to be banned.

Opinions are Ok. You received 2 opinions to your post. While they may be harsh, they are opinions. What you came back with was basically a foul-mouthed personal attack. So lighten up, ok? OR think twice before you hit the submit button.

Personally, I can and have spread Behr paint several times. I didn't like the way it handled, and I wasn't happy with the final look either. And I also prefer to support my local BM dealer, rather than feed the machine that the HD is. Seeing that I spec the materials I use, I have no reason to use it, it just isn't on my list anymore. It that how you wanted to hear it?

**AtlanticWBConst** · 12-11-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by genecarp

It has finally become clear to me why i joined CT---I have been patiently been waiting for you to show up, fail to introduce yourself, and immediately begin to recomend an inferior product. welcome to CONTRACTOR talk!!!!!!!!!!

You're right. He's new, he comes on here praising crap. He's up to something...

We've done comparisons with Behr and Premium brands. One such comparison resulted in 2 additional coats to cover the walls (Behr) over the Premium brand.

Had a situation where the HO was told to provide a premium brand paint. Instead, they supplied Behr.
The stuff was so bad, that when we came back with the premium stuff and painted the rest of the job, she offered to pay extra for the additional work she created by supplying the crap, the first time....

SCBBUILDERS · 12-11-2008, 09:36 PM

I'm far from a pro painter but have used Behr paint products a few times. Each time I was told about the superior pigmentation, spreading qualities, etc. Each time I came away very disappointed. Now it's either Benjamin More or Aquaborne Ceramic on every project, period.

Wolfgang · 12-12-2008, 06:52 AM

Having done Insurance Restoration work under State Farm's PSP Program you have to use what the "box" sells. Granted, as a Professional Painter for the last 26 years, I may not be totally wild about Behr paints. That being said, if you consider yourself to be a pro you should be able to apply any product in an acceptable manner. This bashing stuff, whether it be concerning a product or a members posting I tend to vue as somewhat immature. We all have our personal products of choice, and yes, others have different ones they prefer. I have used Behr products on numerous homes and have never experienced any sort of product failure or warranty issues. My ego isnt so big that I have forgotten the first rule of business, and thats giving the customer what they want and doing it in a professional manner. Realistically, do you actually think you could walk into a customers completed house and look at the paint and say unequivically; "Geez, they put Behr paint on the walls!"? 3 years ago I did a 7,000sf house in all Behr. Not my first choice, but thats what the customer insisted on. Not one problem. That job has resulted in 11 completed referrals, and I'll take a referral over a cold call any day. If you have problems with box store paints concerning coverage, etc., then you may want to adjust your bid accordingly.

WisePainter · 12-12-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

Having done Insurance Restoration work under State Farm's PSP Program you have to use what the "box" sells. Granted, as a Professional Painter for the last 26 years, I may not be totally wild about Behr paints. That being said, if you consider yourself to be a pro you should be able to apply any product in an acceptable manner. This bashing stuff, whether it be concerning a product or a members posting I tend to vue as somewhat immature. We all have our personal products of choice, and yes, others have different ones they prefer. I have used Behr products on numerous homes and have never experienced any sort of product failure or warranty issues. My ego isnt so big that I have forgotten the first rule of business, and thats giving the customer what they want and doing it in a professional manner. Realistically, do you actually think you could walk into a customers completed house and look at the paint and say unequivically; "Geez, they put Behr paint on the walls!"? 3 years ago I did a 7,000sf house in all Behr. Not my first choice, but thats what the customer insisted on. Not one problem. That job has resulted in 11 completed referrals, and I'll take a referral over a cold call any day. If you have problems with box store paints concerning coverage, etc., then you may want to adjust your bid accordingly.

you sure told us in one long run on, no paragraph separation type of way there didn't cha' then.

MALCO.New.York · 12-12-2008, 08:01 AM

How bouts all that posted in this thread do us all a favor and edit your posts.

We have rightfully concluded that this product is crapola and yet we make the mistake of increasing the web traffic for them by properly spelling and even capitalizing the first letter to boot.

That my friends is called Free Advertising!!

Let us do our part and remove any direct reference!

Just my 11 pennies (2 cents, adjusted for inflation) and 1 post closer to 1,000,000!

POST SCRIPT: editing also includes that which you have quoted!!!!!!!!!!

Bertram33 · 12-12-2008, 03:15 PM

I think it's funny that middle aged housewives have had unbelievable success with Behr paints and primers and all the "Pro's" just can't figure out how to use it?? They are selling 2 Billion dollars worth of paint a year, this is from a company that's only been making paint for less then 25 years. 4 years in a row being Rated #1 in Consumer Reports, J.D. Power rated #1 in customer satisfaction for 2008. Half the price of BM and SW and it's what your customers want.....As more and more SW and BM stores close in the future and they keep pulling quality out of the can and raising prices, I'm sure some of you will come around. But like I said before, "you can't shine a sneaker".

Wolfgang · 12-12-2008, 04:25 PM

Wise, it was 3:30 am when I did that post. I dont do paragraphs until 7:00am.

DecksEtc · 12-12-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bertram33

I think it's funny that middle aged housewives have had unbelievable success with Behr paints and primers and all the "Pro's" just can't figure out how to use it?? They are selling 2 Billion dollars worth of paint a year, this is from a company that's only been making paint for less then 25 years. 4 years in a row being Rated #1 in Consumer Reports, J.D. Power rated #1 in customer satisfaction for 2008. Half the price of BM and SW and it's what your customers want.....As more and more SW and BM stores close in the future and they keep pulling quality out of the can and raising prices, I'm sure some of you will come around. But like I said before, "you can't shine a sneaker".

WOW! I gotta give you credit for sticking around Mr. Behr Paint Sales Representative

Those joke ratings you use as examples have their surveys done with Homeowner/DIY'ers NOT Professional Painters.

You keep telling yourself it's a good product.

BTW, do you have any pictures of your work? And, I don't mean ones out of the Behr catalogue that you use to sell your crappy paint

WisePainter · 12-13-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang

Wise, it was 3:30 am when I did that post. I dont do paragraphs until 7:00am.

WisePainter · 12-13-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertram33

I think it's funny that middle aged housewives have had unbelievable success with Behr paints and primers and all the "Pro's" just can't figure out how to use it?? They are selling 2 Billion dollars worth of paint a year, this is from a company that's only been making paint for less then 25 years. 4 years in a row being Rated #1 in Consumer Reports, J.D. Power rated #1 in customer satisfaction for 2008. Half the price of BM and SW and it's what your customers want.....As more and more SW and BM stores close in the future and they keep pulling quality out of the can and raising prices, I'm sure some of you will come around. But like I said before, "you can't shine a sneaker".

**AtlanticWBConst** · 12-13-2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bertram33

I think it's funny that middle aged housewives have had unbelievable success with Behr paints and primers and all the "Pro's" just can't figure out how to use it?? They are selling 2 Billion dollars worth of paint a year, this is from a company that's only been making paint for less then 25 years. 4 years in a row being Rated #1 in Consumer Reports, J.D. Power rated #1 in customer satisfaction for 2008. Half the price of BM and SW and it's what your customers want.....As more and more SW and BM stores close in the future and they keep pulling quality out of the can and raising prices, I'm sure some of you will come around. But like I said before, "you can't shine a sneaker".

Oh, yeah, like all those middle aged house wives, know the difference between quality paint and crap.....

Do you honestly think that's a good point to defending that crappy paint?

That's like saying, look at all the middle aged home owner/DIY husbands, who know nothing about home building/remodeling/repair. Then look at their tool purchasing history/records.
Now, base that record on what the professionals, in the trades are buying....
Yep, the HO DIY husbands are 90% of the time, buying the cheap crap tools, at the cheap crap prices.

Both those husbands and wives buy what the BigBox Store's over-blown advertising pushes at them. They have no idea, or clue beyond that. Educated consumers? I think not.

Same arguement - Look at all the HO's spending big money for siding, window, and roof installations by the Big Boxe Stores. They are spending 30%+ more than they have to. Why do they do it?

Answer: Coloful, Full Blown, A-D-V-E-R-T-I-S-I-N-G.

Are they getting the best for their buck? Heck no. They are getting less, but have no clue, because it's packaged like putting lipstick on a pig.

WisePainter · 12-13-2008, 12:07 PM

I hear told that putting lipstick on a pig is not easy.

DecksEtc · 12-13-2008, 02:34 PM

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I hear told that putting lipstick on a pig is not easy.

Easier then getting good results with Behr paint

MALCO.New.York · 12-13-2008, 02:35 PM

What is up with all the rheB promotion here?!?!?!?