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09-23-2009, 11:07 PM
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Home Depot aisle walker
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home remodeling
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tulsa OK
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Slumming and door slabs
The HO, cant hate her shes older and sweet, bought 10 Blowes 6 panel door slabs ($19.97 each). Cut em on 3 sides to fit existing frames etc. Towards the end down to an hour each. I noticed at the end of the day I had over over a grand worth of tools out working on $20 doors
This seems to be where I'm at for the moment. Least I'm working.
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09-23-2009, 11:24 PM
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Curmudgeon
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carpentry/remodeling/"Yes M'am we do"
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Beech Grove, Indiana, Birthplace of the "King of Cool"
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If it keeps you out of the pool halls
and away from the bad crowd.....
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(Sorry....it seems there really are dumb questions)
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09-23-2009, 11:30 PM
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Home Depot aisle walker
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home remodeling
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tulsa OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neolitic
If it keeps you out of the pool halls
and away from the bad crowd..... 
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Who can afford a pool hall these days? I buy my beer at Rite Aid on special.
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09-23-2009, 11:52 PM
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Pro
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Sure, what you got?
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Location: Auburn Indiana
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I'd bust out about 3k in tools and be done before lunch. And not have a mess.
Those kinds of things suck, some people dont get that ordering the right doors is a lot cheaper in the long run.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gus Dering
It may be just a gateway tool to the hard stuff. Be careful 
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09-24-2009, 12:01 AM
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Home Depot aisle walker
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home remodeling
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tulsa OK
Posts: 906
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
I'd bust out about 3k in tools and be done before lunch. And not have a mess.
Those kinds of things suck, some people dont get that ordering the right doors is a lot cheaper in the long run.
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I'm the new kid in town and have never lived off of anything other then word of mouth (not saying thats smart). Never done "door replacement" either. Yeah I would do it your way next time, didnt know, know now. Its never ends with the learning.
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09-24-2009, 03:32 PM
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Pro
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interior trim
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kane Co. Illinois
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I charge $55 per slab installed when there are a bunch of them. Usually just do prehungs.
Silly to put that much effort into a $20 slab. If people only realized that it is more work to use cheap materials ---GRRRRRRR
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09-25-2009, 08:14 PM
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Pro
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Bathroom Design Build Contractor
Join Date: May 2008
Location: London, Ontario, Canada
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I have done a few door replacements and have always used a local trim/door supply company who machines the door and jamb - they will assemble it as well, but we normally do that on site in case we need to shorten the jambs. I think I pay about $80.00 per door (with jamb and stop). The best was a client who wanted 5 sets of large bifold closet doors switched to slabs. It was an easy job with the pre-machined jambs/doors.
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09-25-2009, 08:41 PM
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residential framing/general carpentry
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Southern New Jersey
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A a teenager, I learned how to hang a slab from my father. I actually enjoy the opportunity to practice the skill. Especially with the same equipment I learned with.
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09-25-2009, 09:47 PM
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Pro
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carpentry / fencing / decks
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Location: Savannah, Ga
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer
A a teenager, I learned how to hang a slab from my father. I actually enjoy the opportunity to practice the skill. Especially with the same equipment I learned with. 
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What is all of that junk?
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09-25-2009, 11:45 PM
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Fentoozler
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Professional Pie and Pastry Taster
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by curapa
What is all of that junk? 
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I think it's a garage sale
Changing doors is a PITA when nothing is plumb, square, level, etc.
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09-26-2009, 05:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by curapa
What is all of that junk? 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtic
I think it's a garage sale
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I won't take a dime less than tree-fiddy
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09-26-2009, 05:57 AM
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Pro
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interior trim
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kane Co. Illinois
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LONE FRAMER--Nice, very nice ,REALLY NICE. I'd wrestle a gorilla to get a set up as nice as that.!!!
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09-26-2009, 06:55 AM
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residential framing/general carpentry
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeswoods
LONE FRAMER--Nice, very nice ,REALLY NICE. I'd wrestle a gorilla to get a set up as nice as that.!!!
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Thanks man, My father gave me that a few months before he passed. I installed many deadbolt locks with him back in the early 80s with that fixture. Deadbolts were all the rage at that time.
I'd biotch slap a gorilla and spit in his eye before I part with that kit. 
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09-26-2009, 07:06 AM
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Pro
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interior trim
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kane Co. Illinois
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I still have my dads old brace.I love the feel of a sharp bit singing its way through a piece of wood.
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09-28-2009, 12:09 PM
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Maker of fine kindleing
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cabinet maker
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Santa Rosa CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by loneframer
A a teenager, I learned how to hang a slab from my father. I actually enjoy the opportunity to practice the skill. Especially with the same equipment I learned with. 
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What ever happened to the power cord? Or the motor for that matter?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
Gus is right. 
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09-28-2009, 08:35 PM
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Home Depot aisle walker
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home remodeling
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Tulsa OK
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One thing that I learned from the job was something I had forgotten, bore the handle holes from both sides and you dont need a guide to do it, just cut the f**king hole from both sides. A guide is a complete waste of time & money.
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09-28-2009, 09:26 PM
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Maker of fine kindleing
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cabinet maker
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Location: Santa Rosa CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willworkforbeer
One thing that I learned from the job was something I had forgotten, bore the handle holes from both sides and you dont need a guide to do it, just cut the f**king hole from both sides. A guide is a complete waste of time & money.
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That there is just silly.
If you are going to do much of this type of work it would be in your best interest to procure some jigs. You don't have to buy the spendy ones if you can't afford them. You can make some of your own.
You make one mistake on an expensive door that would have been avoided with a jig. Badda bing badda boom you have wasted your jig money on a door blank.
If you find yourself doing production work hanging door blanks the time you will save will repay our investment as well.
Why you gotta get a tool junkie's dander all up like that? Am I alone here? I'm not looking forward to beating this concept into his head all by myself.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WarnerConstInc.
Gus is right. 
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09-28-2009, 09:34 PM
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residential framing/general carpentry
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Location: Southern New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willworkforbeer
One thing that I learned from the job was something I had forgotten, bore the handle holes from both sides and you dont need a guide to do it, just cut the f**king hole from both sides. A guide is a complete waste of time & money.
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That is a matter of opinion. For me, setting the fixture takes about 10 seconds, then I can bore the holes with no fear of drilling an off center or out of square hole in either direction. The fixture wont allow it to happen, nor will the door blow out from drilling straight through, although I don't do it to protect my bit. As for cost, free is not a waste of money by any definition.
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09-28-2009, 09:42 PM
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Pro
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General Contractor
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Hennessey, Oklahoma
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I have the fixture set...if I remember, I will take a picture of it. It has been several years since I had to bore a lock set, or get out the hinge guides for the router, but it is the only accurate way to do it correctly. Who still uses a hinge template set up?
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09-28-2009, 09:52 PM
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Pro
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Remodeling general
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Annapolis Md
Posts: 1,512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joasis
I have the fixture set...if I remember, I will take a picture of it. It has been several years since I had to bore a lock set, or get out the hinge guides for the router, but it is the only accurate way to do it correctly. Who still uses a hinge template set up?
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I have the porter cable hinge jig. Since I bought it for doing just this type of work it has saved me countless hours. and the hinges always match exactly where the old hinges were. I have old hinges screwed to blocks of wood that I use to set the jig on the jamb. Dead nuts hinge location every time.
I do use a cheapo door boring jig but it has paid for itself many times over.
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