Shower

jerome8283

I'm looking to install a shower but the space is very small and I'm not sure if it's possible. The space is 31" square. I'm thinking a corner unit might work with a glass door. Or, tile the entire space and install a glass door without a base.

I would like you input.

Double-A

Most model codes call for 750 square inches of floor space in a shower. Try to keep your floor that large if possible. The Neo-Corner (five sider, pushed into a corner) style might be too small if site built. My recommendation is to take a look at premade pans and if you think you can fit on of them in there, use it as a template for a site built pan (this is not the 'water tight" lead pan of old I'm referring to, its actually called a receptor, floor and curbing built as one piece with a drain hole in it).

I will say however, that a 30"x30" is one helluva cramped shower. I try not to do anything less than 36" deep x 48" wide whenever possible. Now that's a shower you can bend over and wash your feet in without getting goosed by cold tile or glass.

I like the "tile the entire space and no base" idea... you can get 'roll in' shower receptors that have basically no curbing on one or two sides.

Let me look around and see if I can find where I saw this idea of a corner shower with only one real wall. The other two were the actual room wall. If not, I'll draw something up on Sketchup. (I'm addicted to it.)

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jerome8283

Here are pics of the current shower.

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jerome8283

more pics..

A couple of things that I'm thinking of doing.
1. move the door over about 1.5 to 2inches
2. remove the wall to the right


The current measurements from left to right (end of the wall) 31".

I have 3 inches between the toilet and wall. I'm thinking a base can extend that far on the back wall if a go with a neo.

Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks

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Double-A

OK. You have code issues right now. That WC has to have 15" side to side clearance from the center to any wall or cabinet. It doesn't seem to have that clearance now. If you're not concerned about that, I'd still consider trying to make this a less cramped room.

Take some measurements of the room and one more picture. Wall to wall, center line of WC to walls on either side, clear floor space from shower wall to wall by potty, etc. Measure the width of the bathroom door too.

Stand at the WC and take a pic of the sink wall, and get the door wall in the picture.

Is this bathroom on the second floor?
If not, is it over a basement, slab or crawlspace?

Do you definitely want to leave the WC and the sink where they are and just mess with the shower?

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jerome8283

I will post one more pic and take measurments in a minute. This is on a second floor home. I really do not wish to move the toilet. The sink will be moved to the right wall.

jerome8283

The entire room is 56"x77". Here are more pics..

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jerome8283

I looked at glass doors this morning and I'm considering removing the entire shower, tiling the room and installing a glass door. The shower space will increase about 3 or 4 inches in width but the space between the shower and the toilet will remain the same. I'm also considering installing a sliding door for the entry way.

Mike Finley

I'd either leave it as it is or move. The condition of the shower looks the best of anything in the room. Maybe replace the door with a clear one to open up the space a bit. I have my doubts you can do anything you are saying within code. You need 30 inches for the toilet any encroachment on that won't pass code, but maybe your inspector will waive it for you.

jerome8283

Move?? You would move because the bathroom is not what you would like it to look like?? If it's not code now, it wasn't code when I purchased it. I'm not to concerned. It passed inspection. The bathroom hasn't been touched since I moved in so it is what it is. I removed the wallpaper, that's about it.

Gordo

Tear out the entire fiberglass shower unit and the wall between the shower and the drain.

Then build a curb as close as comfort will allow on the front side and toilet side of shower using 2x4. You now will have the foundation for a mud floor tile shower. Tile the two walls and install a custom glass door and 'wall' next to toilet. Be sure to slope the curb enough that you can install the glass towards the outer edge of the curb.

You will easily gain 6" by eliminating that wall and going with glass.

You will also gain a couple of inches around the rest of the walls by eliminating the 'build out' of the fiberglass shower mould.

Doing these things will greatly increase your 'usable' space. The shower glass will even give the illusion that your space is even larger.

Been there and done that........the end result will amaze you.

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jerome8283

This is exactly what I'm planning to do!!!!!!!!!!
Your with me Gordo!!!!!

go dart

THATS A STANDARD UNIT YOU'RE REPLACING. its a 32"x32" . strip everything out to subfloor/studs and you'll find your rough in is 32". go get a sterling unit (size accordingly), faucet, shower door (pivot if enough clearence) some 1x4"s, drain center and get going! don't even screw around with a curbless shower unless you change your phone # every month. charge em 3100.00 and you'll thank me later just saw this is your own home (sorry) ah drop that price 400.00 will ya?

tgeb

Is it possible to relocate the door to the adjacent wall?

I have a room almost exactly like that, same size shower, next to toilet.

I moved the entry door and stick built a neo-angle, gave more room and turned out great.

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Mike Finley

Yeah, wouldn't everybody?

jerome8283

Sadly enough, your right. Most people would.

jerome8283

Maybe. This might not be a bad idea. Nice job!

Gordo

The Gord is with you.

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Gordo

Nice work.

Only problem is that angle will reduce the 'usable' shower space putting us back to the intial problem of the lack thereof.

Great solution for increasing bathroom floor space.

I like those pics, what kind of tile is that?

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tgeb

Here is another view

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