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Old 06-21-2009, 02:39 PM   #61
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I know of a handful of people that had bathfitters come in and do the work. One customer had 2 bathrooms. We renovated one and bathfitters had did the other one. The homeowner said it cost $7000 to do just the bathtub, tub walls and drop ceiling. A friend of my wifes had them do a small shower, 3x3x8. Cost them around $6000 and had nothing but problems with it leaking.

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Old 06-29-2009, 04:17 PM   #62
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Just in the interest of being thorough, the bath fitter system and the rebath system are A LOT different.

The BF system uses a so-called "1 piece" design that invites nothing but cracks and leaks. At least ReBath uses a true 3 piece design with expansion joints. Rebath seems to be a little cheaper as well.

It sucks hearing about customers that feel like they were ripped off, but overall, both companies have volumes and volumes of positive testimonials. At the end of the day if the customer is happy... I've talked to several customers who said it was worth every penny and they couldnt be happier...

Bottom line though is that there are companies popping up all over the place that can do acrylic replacement stuff. Let them do what they do. Their innovation is severely lacking.

The key is to find new ways and new products to really provide your customers a unique experience and results. Thats whats really helped us.
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adwilk --- Would it be possible to email those sales tech items to me as well ... would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Old 11-18-2009, 10:11 AM   #64
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I have seen many "systems" that have been cut wrong and have gaping
1/2" gaps at the seems. Ceiling panels fall down and uneven and tons of issues
with water getting under the tub liners which isn't a quick fix. The future of bath
remodeling looks great! Sad for the customers though.

I'm gonna start recording them with pictures.
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TO all who have answered this forum with typical prejudiced responses, you give every honest and quality contractor a bad name. It seems to me from afar that most of you really don't understand what re-bath does, how they exactly do it, and what they really use. So how can you run your mouths about it? Is this the same way you approach your costumers when they ask questions?

I have worked for a re-bath dealer for 6 years. Each location is a franchise. Each location is only as good as it's ownership, but thats true for everyone who posts here too. Re-bath is not hammered crap!

It is more than tub liners. First a liner can only go over a cast iron tub and nothing else. When we remodel a fiberglass or steel, or old ceramic tile job it comes out. We offer any home owner a simple alterative to traditional bathroom remodeling. Less mess ( in general) less time to remodel.

We use no subs, we extensively train our own people.We always pull required permits when moving/changing drains, or electric is involved. We give a real honest to god lifetime warranty and stand behind it like no other company on earth. Our products are not cheap crappy preformed kits. Almost all work is done completely on site. All measuring, cutting, installing etc.

We do not sell with high pressure and empty promises, and we put every detail in writing before the client signs anything. We are outstanding members of the BBB, and actually have our entire product line independently tested by Underwriters Laboratories.


I have worked for four different contractor/remodeling firms in 16 years and have never seen a more professionally run, or better customer centered business. If you are losing bids to re-bath, then look at your approach and products you offer. It's not our fault. We don't compete with high end remodeling, and I have never been able to change a customer's mind that really wanted to do slate, or custom tile work for their bath/shower. So we really don't compete.

You sir are out of line imo. You are posting with ACTUALL CRAFTSMAN not some hack that sat in a class to learn how to 1/2 remodle a bathroom. I would not have a problem with RE bath outfits if they would stay in the trailer homes were there product fits best. As you said your franchise office may have a good reputation, but there are more than just yours out there smashing in junk over junk.......Thats my opinion but I think there are more that will agree than disagree...........Say what you want, my mind will not be changed on this one!
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My eyes don't lie. You cannot tell me what I have seen. Go preach your sales lines elsewhere
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I have been reading the thread regarding Rebath and Bathfitter. I have experienced a sales person from each company. Each of these bathtub liner providers have basically the same product with a few small differences. The prices are relatively high in my opinion. They ranged from $2500.00 to $5600.00 with special coupons offered from time to time of around $500.00 off. I found that having a contractor come in and remove the bathtub and install a tile shower base/walls is much more cost effective. There is also another product available called a safety step, which is a retrofit cap that after the bathtub being cut slides over the open notch. Its not for everyone (Its great for people on fixed incomes). These are several options to the rebath or bathfitter product that are very pricey. I actually had the safety step installed for my mother, it works great and cost a fraction of the cost ($475.00) of the other options. You can google or yahoo and find dealers anywhere in the united states. I hope this was helpful.
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I say do it the write way , and give the bath area some character put a new tub in , install new Rock board , new tile,you may find some problems areas that you didn't realize were there. Tile will (hands down) if installed correctly with the write materials, will out last that band aid solution, 10 fold. the words "go over" and "cover up" gives the impression of Barn Job when it comes to this. there are already several consumer complaints about this process and with the companies that are installing them http://bathfitters.pissedconsumer.com/ . just my 2 cents
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I haven't had a personal experience with any re-bath product. But my in-laws have. They spent over 5k on a re-bath of their tub/shower. IMO that's frackin' highway robbery. 5k for what? A liner that goes over an existing tub and shower surround? Unreal... For the size of their bathroom, I could have remodeled the entire bathroom with average fixtures for about 2k more. So now they have a bathroom with a new looking shower stall and a 1970's vanity and flooring.

They got screwed in my opinion, but being the son-in-law, I just tell them it looks fabulous.
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I owned a Rebath Franchise for several years and most of those guys and their crews are extremely inexperienced. If the customer can tell the difference in a good quality job and a cheap plastic cover then that is what they deserve
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I worked for a company in san diego back in the 80's that did the tub liner thing and I remember that the biggest problem that they had was water leaking in under the liner either from between the joint where the tub meets the wall or more often around the drain ring. It made the water would set in there and mold would form. I took one out once that that had happened to and boy did it smell. I never messed with that part of the business again.
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Bath Fitter will never just cover up a bath without making sure everything is good. they don't cover any mildew. If there is mildew, it will be remove. All the affected materials will be removed, It is not a short cut, but only a cheaper alternative for people with a smaller budget. Not everybody can afford a $30 000 bathroom reno. Find the good customer for the product you offer.

Not all the reno are done in a day. If your bathroom is in good condition and you just want a little update, bath fitter might be for you.

Bath fitter will also remove old bath tub and replace it if necessary. that might take more than a day.

If you try to put people down to make yourself look better, you will never be good in business because nobody is going to trust you.

There is over 200 bath fitter in north America. Look at the number of complaint on pissedcomsumer.com in the last 10 years. divide the number of complaint by the number of years and by 200. That is a very low rate of complaints. (complaints / years / 2000 retailers)

Be more mature.

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Seems like it would be kinda like putting a metal or vinyl cap over a rotten window sill. Sure it covers up the ugly but there is still a rotten mess underneath the cap. Would be ok for a rental or a quick flip I guess... Maybe a section 8 job. It certainly has its place in the industry if for no other reason tan to give us something to shake our heads at.
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we are installing trim and flooring in a bathroom now...we upped floor to expose subfloor...many areas of rot had to be replaced..bathfitter is coming in to do there thing..now if the areas of the rest of the floor had damage...im willing to bet underneath the tub is the same way..but we wont know since its staying

lot of money going into flooring and if something happens down the road up it will come to repair
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When I was in addition business, if a customer was considering a tin florida room or as we call it a disposible addition, we knew they were not interested in quality or adding true value to thier home. IMO I don't consider anyone interested in a re-bath or bathfitters a customer who knows the difference between quality and a quick fix/bandaid. I'm sure that I'll never be convinced that hardened shrinkwrap is any good for anyone except the salesman who's just made a comission.
I don't think they take the tub out. I think they just cover up what is there. Mold and all.
you don't think, what does it mean you don't think? Let me tell you: you don't know what you are talking about.

they don't cover mold they remove everything that need to be remove
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My neighbor had one put in a few years ago. I'm not sure exactly which company it was but it turned out ok for what it was. For a spare bathroom or rental it might be just the thing. The only thing that bothered me about it was the guy replaced the valve(almost sure he wasn't a plumber) and didn't align the spout and handle up in a line, the spout was offset a couple inches or so. To me it ruined the whole job! I'm not sure what my neighbor spent but I think could have put in a whole new heavy duty tub/shower combo for the same price. OR remodeled for a couple thousand more. But she was happy so who cares, right?
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you don't think, what does it mean you don't think? Let me tell you: you don't know what you are talking about.

they don't cover mold they remove everything that need to be remove
So, these guys have xray glasses? They can see right through the old tile and see the mould that is in the sheetrock behind?

I do not buy that for a second. Their product, even well installed, is still a bunch of plastic crap!
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I recently looked at a 1950s rancher. There was a window in the surround,witch was typical of that area home. There was obvious water damage around the window. Gut to the studs. Some minor electrical and plumbing. Tile surround and floor, granite top ect. Higher end stuff!! I'm thinking around 10k. Customer had been to the bath-****er showroom and received some high presure sales tactics. Nearly 6k for the tub and surround, in the color of their choice. If you sign today there is a $500 discount. Where is your other bathroom I asked? We only have one! I told them they would be without a bathroom for over two weeks. Bath-****er one day. They went with bath-****er. I would bet they covered allot of rot.
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The local bath fitter dealer near me now has around 10 trailers and all new vehicles. He must be milking it. At the weekends they are all parked in local carpark. People must be buying the stuff. Just amazes me that they pay the money they are asking but when I give a price for a full gut and remodel the customer looks at me as if to say that's expensive
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