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Old 01-07-2018, 01:17 PM   #1
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I want to hang an 80x32 frameless mirror with a french cleat or similar so it can float away from the wall 3/4" and have no visible clips.

Can anyone recommend a glue that I can trust to glue a 1x4 to the back of this mirror to support all its weight, and that won't mess up the mirror finish?
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Old 01-07-2018, 01:35 PM   #2
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I have done this 3 times without any issues. I used a urethane type caulking. I can't say for sure if it will eat the silver over time but it is definitely a solid bond. All times I did it I glued a 5/4 PVC frame and let it lay flat and cure over night before hanging.

The client wanted the mirror edge all lit up. I built the PVC frame about 1" back from the edge and used led tape lighting adhered around the frame.

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We played with the lighting idea too and then decided to keep it simpler. Can you tell me the specific caulking you use? Don't want to take any chances.
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We played with the lighting idea too and then decided to keep it simpler. Can you tell me the specific caulking you use? Don't want to take any chances.
Oh boy...I think I used TiteBond weathermaster. Really was something I had in the van. Might have used NP1 for the first one. Sorry I am not 100% sure what it was. I just know I didn't use silicone because if you use the wrong silicone it can eat the silvering. I was nervous too but the first one I did has been up a few years now with zero issue.
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why not just use mirror mastic from a glass supplier?

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why not just use mirror mastic from a glass supplier?

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Mirror mastic does not like heat, it will not hold the weight of the mirror. It will hold it against the wall but to up in the summer. Ask me how I know.


I would not use any type of glue, they have L clips and rail that are just about invisible. My glass guy just uses 1 at the bottom, over time any adhesive will eat through the silvering on the mirror except for mirror adhesive
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Mirror mastic does not like heat, it will not hold the weight of the mirror. It will hold it against the wall but to up in the summer. Ask me how I know.


I would not use any type of glue, they have L clips and rail that are just about invisible. My glass guy just uses 1 at the bottom, over time any adhesive will eat through the silvering on the mirror except for mirror adhesive
Yeah mirrors are too easy to remove when installed with mastic. But I guess not all adhesives will eat through the silvering, since mirror mastic exists...
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PL makes a glass specific adhesive but not sure if it would affect the backing. I'd be inclined to just use silicone and give it enough time to set.
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Seal-Bond.

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PL makes a glass specific adhesive but not sure if it would affect the backing. I'd be inclined to just use silicone and give it enough time to set.
no silicone, many have some sort of additive that will eat the silvering. Notice the ones that really smell? Again, ask me how I know.

Just ask any glass guy who has been in business a while and they will tell you what to do. Mine uses the L bracket.

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Many moons ago, I used 'proper' mirror adhesive to glue a hunk of ply to the back of a smallish (2x3) mirror. That got hung with eyelets and wire.

Until it came crashing down a few years later. Happily, it was my own place.
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"typical" mirror install relies on a mechanical fastener for the vertical load while using an adhesive bond for lateral load....typical being J channel for the mechanical... if it were me, and I wanted to sleep well,,,I would push for a (complimentary/low visibility ) L bracket for the vertical load..
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The glass co gave me a tube of stuff that says no mechanical fasteners needed. Reaches 30% strength in 24 hours, so I'm letting it sit a few days before I hang it. I'll post back if I get a call back in a year...
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Went to hang the mirror today. Almost last thing for a major 4 room remodel with 1000 square feet of tile, $40k in cabinets, etc. I glued the damn french cleat on backwards! I belong in the wall of shame. Holy crap what an idiot.
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Went to hang the mirror today. Almost last thing for a major 4 room remodel with 1000 square feet of tile, $40k in cabinets, etc. I glued the damn french cleat on backwards! I belong in the wall of shame. Holy crap what an idiot.
I wish I could say I have never done that but.........

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Went to hang the mirror today. Almost last thing for a major 4 room remodel with 1000 square feet of tile, $40k in cabinets, etc. I glued the damn french cleat on backwards! I belong in the wall of shame. Holy crap what an idiot.
On the wall or the mirror?

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On the mirror. Glued. I'll try changing the slope with a carefully set dovetail router bit. Otherwise, buying a new mirror. Cost is not a big deal, but it'll take a week or more to get it cut, delivered, glued back up, etc.
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Having a mirror guy doing it is sounding better and better
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Having a mirror guy doing it is sounding better and better
No kidding.
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Went to hang the mirror today. Almost last thing for a major 4 room remodel with 1000 square feet of tile, $40k in cabinets, etc. I glued the damn french cleat on backwards! I belong in the wall of shame. Holy crap what an idiot.
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