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10-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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Location: Jamestown NY
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Floor Protection
We just started a good sized remodel...mainly a 2 story addition, with some alterations to the existing home. This project is likely to last 6-9 months....
There's going to be a LOT of traffic on old DFir flooring....I imagine all floors will be sanded and re-coated later...
We buy scrap card board by the pallet from a local container company....so we rolled out 6 mil plastic then put down card board and taped. No doubt we'll be pulling it all up in a couple months and re-doing.
Anyway, it made me curious about what some of you folks do to protect your projects when you know you'll be there a while ( BTW, No one is living in the home!)
Just for S&G's, I took some pics of the project, but not the floor....That'll be my next post.
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10-01-2009, 07:35 PM
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Pro
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LI,NY designer, new homes, renovation work, concre
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We freshen up a little more often, but red rosen paper and blue tape is usually our sop. If we are on a real highend floor, i will also drop cloth the whole area.
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10-01-2009, 07:41 PM
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finish carpenter
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craft paper or plastic taped down first, then wall leveller we salvage off houses which we re-side, and then osb.
wall leveller we get free as its pulled off houses, osb is thicker and cheaper than masonite
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10-01-2009, 07:41 PM
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Carpenter
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custom homebuilding/remodeling/restoration
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Location: Jamestown NY
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10-01-2009, 08:06 PM
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Internet Creep
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I have done kitchen remodels over existing hardwood. First, uber-clean the floor of any debris. I use a layer of rosin paper, layer of cardboard (from cabinet boxes) and then a layer of luan...all taped at the seams. Since a kitchen floor isn't that big (typically), it has been cost effective so far. I have read about products that are made for this application I have considered.
Single use and cheaper:
http://www.blakeproducts.com/index.a...TS&Category=42
Reusable but more expensive:
http://www.blakeproducts.com/index.a...TS&Category=41
Just saw this on here a week or two ago. Looks decent:
http://www.ramboard.com/
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10-01-2009, 10:25 PM
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Pro
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For just dust control red rosin is fine, better protection against spills and sweepabilty, FIBEROCK™ Floor Protector Paper, taped at seams and edge. Add 1/8 masonite or 1/2 homasoat for heavy demo.
Be careful taping to finished wood floors, even blue tape can screw up some poly finishes
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10-02-2009, 08:03 AM
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New Guy
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Location: Central New Jersey
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I have used red rosin paper in the past with 1/4" masonite over top. I duct tape the masonite togeather.
I will never use red rosin paper again as I had one instance when the paper got wet and the red dye leached into the wood floor and stained it.
Check out protectiveproducts.com they have some great products for hardwood and carpet. The tub protection works like a champ as well.
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10-02-2009, 08:08 AM
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The Duke
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I have been pitching ramboard here since I have seen it on a few jobs ans seems really nice. Little expensive for the taste of many here.
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10-02-2009, 09:18 AM
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Pro
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O yea, we have also used carpet remnents to protect floor, just make sure you place the abrasive backing up, i once came in and a couple of guys where placing the carpet good face up  , The underside of many carpets will scratch the **** out of any wood floor(carpet padding works well also). Of coarse on a reno that you know the carpets are coming out, leave them down as floor protection till the last minute. G, man i am home recovering from surgery, thank god for CT.
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10-02-2009, 09:37 AM
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Curmudgeon
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Quote:
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........ man i am home recovering from surgery, thank god for CT.
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Hope you are doing well.
Didn't know you had a problem.
I do envy your perks, you certainly
have a good lookin' nurse.
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10-02-2009, 11:04 AM
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Curmudgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WNYcarpenter
We just started a good sized remodel...mainly a 2 story addition, with some alterations to the existing home. This project is likely to last 6-9 months....
There's going to be a LOT of traffic on old DFir flooring....I imagine all floors will be sanded and re-coated later...
We buy scrap card board by the pallet from a local container company....so we rolled out 6 mil plastic then put down card board and taped. No doubt we'll be pulling it all up in a couple months and re-doing.
Anyway, it made me curious about what some of you folks do to protect your projects when you know you'll be there a while ( BTW, No one is living in the home!)
Just for S&G's, I took some pics of the project, but not the floor....That'll be my next post.
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I am liking this stuff for pathways
across carpets, and especially for stairs.
http://www.dropcloth.com/cleanandsafe2a.html
BTW:
We have a sticky.....
http://www.contractortalk.com/f18/du...odeling-31707/
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10-02-2009, 12:11 PM
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Pro
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I use Dow Protection Board III quite a lot:
It's about $35 for a fan fold unit... 3'x50'.
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10-02-2009, 12:15 PM
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Curmudgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrWright
I use Dow Protection Board III quite a lot:
It's about $35 for a fan fold unit... 3'x50'.
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Too stingy to spring for a link?
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10-02-2009, 12:17 PM
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I looked for one, but all I could find was a DOW spec page with no pic.
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10-02-2009, 12:24 PM
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New Guy
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Remodeling
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WNYcarpenter
We buy scrap card board by the pallet from a local container company....so we rolled out 6 mil plastic then put down card board and taped. No doubt we'll be pulling it all up in a couple months and re-doing.
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We used to do something like that until we found this: reinforced kraft paper floor protection
This stuff already has a plastic sheet laminated to it and reinforcements so it ddoesn't tear, so you can elimintae the multi-layer approach. you still need masonite or whatever for the really heavy areas with equipment on it like someone said, but otherwise this is a one and done solution. waterproof too.
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10-02-2009, 12:26 PM
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Pro
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrWright
I use Dow Protection Board III quite a lot:
It's about $35 for a fan fold unit... 3'x50'.
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Sorry, it's actually 4'x50'...
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10-02-2009, 12:34 PM
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Curmudgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrWright
I looked for one, but all I could find was a DOW spec page with no pic. 
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So for us locals (  ), where did
you buy it?
BTW:
What I like about the Clean&Safe
is that it's easy to roll up and
redeploy in occupied homes.
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10-02-2009, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neolitic
So for us locals (  ), where did
you buy it?
BTW:
What I like about the Clean&Safe
is that it's easy to roll up and
redeploy in occupied homes. 
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Lowes carries it... stocked down low under the rigid foam.
I'd like to find some other alternatives... this stuff is not exactly GREEN...
But I like that it's waterproof and gives a bit of cushion--and is easy to cut and form to wherever we need it to go.
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10-02-2009, 05:52 PM
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Pro
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Masonite, the thinner stuff. It runs about $6.00 for a 4X8 at the box stores.
I like the stuff you posted Chris, but I'm too damn tired to do the math to see the cost comparison with masonite.
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10-02-2009, 07:21 PM
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Carpenter
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Location: Jamestown NY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genecarp
O yea, we have also used carpet remnents to protect floor
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That's exactly what we did today over the cardboard...2nd floor demo with carpet, so we used it to protect the hard wood better.
Quote:
Originally Posted by neolitic
BTW:
We have a sticky.....
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Thanks Neo, the idea to post this question just came to me during the jobsite prep. I should frequent this remodelling forum more!
My compnay can be 'penny wise, pound foolish' at times. Projects like this always have a grunt. Some of our long time employees have their ways and like to give the low man a project like pulling the protection and re-laying new stuff. 'Busy Work' if you ask me...if we invested a little more in protection materials, we'd save $$ IMO.
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