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Old 06-12-2010, 12:26 PM   #41
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Painters fill the nail holes. No offense, but must carpenters do an absolute lousy job of filling nail holes.

A moderately hard sanding nail hole filler is the way to go. No marshmallow fluff lightweight spackle (sands too easy and dimples plus the surface is not as smooth as a harder sanding product). No 33 putty either. It will suffice for shoe or less visible areas but it is more visible than other methods.
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if don't right, '53 putty will fill a nail hole (18 awg) to the point of once painted, you can't see it on your basic trim, however if I build something that needs to be flawless...I use MH ready patch.

Where you place nails also differs. If I use putty, I will place the nail inline with a profile, its easy to fill and hides will. If I fill it with Ready Patch, I will nail out in an open flat area so it can be sanded easy.

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If the trim is hung with a gun you can use painters caulk because the holes are small. It washes off with water to. The caulk that paint wont stick to is probably silicone based. Paint or primer neither one will stick to it. I did a job about 6 months ago where a dog had scratched up the trim around the bedroom door and they didn't want to replace it. I just used good old fashioned durhams. It's a little harder to sand, but if you need to shape it to imitate a pattern in the trim it doesn't shrink and you can use a file on it really well. Timbermate makes fillers for use on any wood and also flooring and they are designed to taked stain.
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Painters fill the nail holes. No offense, but must carpenters do an absolute lousy job of filling nail holes.

A moderately hard sanding nail hole filler is the way to go. No marshmallow fluff lightweight spackle (sands too easy and dimples plus the surface is not as smooth as a harder sanding product). No 33 putty either. It will suffice for shoe or less visible areas but it is more visible than other methods.
No offense but the only time a painter has the luxury of filling my nail holes is when I install mdf paint grade material.
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Have to agree with Luke's Dad, The Professionals use glazing compound. I have been in the painting industry for over 30 years and Glazing compound is the only way to go.

Thats what i use, and have had no problems, or complaints.

However some of you guys who are talking about using bondo for big fills or rounded corners, don't you find it difficult that the bondo will sand the same as the wood itself?
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Thats what i use, and have had no problems, or complaints.

However some of you guys who are talking about using bondo for big fills or rounded corners, don't you find it difficult that the bondo will sand the same as the wood itself?
I have never had a problem sanding bondo. I don't like using a lot of bondo though. A body shop guy once told me the less bondo the better. I will try to dutch a large chasm. Then use bondo to fill in the rest.
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My Grandad used bondo for filling all the time. He did a lot of furniture repair. It sticks like a mother. It has catalyst in it so it sets up pretty quick, and if you don't put hardener in it its not rock hard. It sands out very smooth and if you need to file it to shape it naturally its great for that. It even takes stain well. He swears by it.
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(keep in mind this is coming from a drywaller)....but I use durabond mixed in a pan with a little plus 3.....ONLY IF ITS GETTING PAINTED OF COURSE. I can touch up an entire house quick. I've only been asked to do it a few times but it works great. Say for example you got an old doorway inside the house that has the old markings of the old door hinges. I take some dry 5 minute durabond and work it.....lol
100% perfect in less than 10 minutes.....ready to paint.
I would totally agree WRT durabond & painted surfaces. Prime durabond first though..

WRT wood a millwork sub always said a little bit of wood dust (from the wood your working with and glue works great. You can even stain it. I'm not sure of the dust to glue ratio but it seems to work from what I've seen.

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Plumbers putty.
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33 glazing will yellow so do not use with latex enamel use a non shrinking joint compound, or dap 53. I have made the mistake of using the so called stainable wood filler and there is not one brand that works and I leaned that the hard way. You will leave a residue on the wood surrounding nail hole that will take the stain differnt making the final product look like hell. Never use glue mixed with wood it will never work, glue does not take stain. I mix the colored putty after I stain and finish to match like others.
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if its just trim...i use 18g brads..most of the time you really cant even notice the holes...wood filler is usually what i use
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I go by "set'em and forget'em".
The painter has better experience with what filler will work best under his paint.
If you fill'em and it fails who's paying for repaint ?
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The only time I fill nail holes or caulk paintable trim is if the homeowner wants to paint themselves. All other times the painter fills for us. I've seen him use glazing and lightweight spackle. It usually turns very nice.

I do fill holes on stained trim. Mostly because we have our trim pre-finished and I can just fill with a colored wood filler.
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Painters fill the nail holes. No offense, but must carpenters do an absolute lousy job of filling nail holes.

A moderately hard sanding nail hole filler is the way to go. No marshmallow fluff lightweight spackle (sands too easy and dimples plus the surface is not as smooth as a harder sanding product). No 33 putty either. It will suffice for shoe or less visible areas but it is more visible than other methods.
I agree, I leave that for the painters
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Only time I fill nail holes is after I install a kitchen. Then I use colour

matched crayon sent by the manufacturer. Nail filling and caulking should

be left to the painter. Besides its more work to fill holes than to install

most trim.

Fill sand reapply as needed crawl around and look for all the holes. Not for me.

Glad to have good painters.

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ill either use drydex or glazing compound for nail holes.. the odd time i use use dap is in closets where it will never be seen anyway or on "fast and dirty" jobs like cheap apartment units

i did some high end commercial work a few years back and the painters were using hte glazing compound. it doesnt dry out and doesnt shrink
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Sure, slap it up, bang it full of holes and then HOPE the painter is going to do a good job of filling YOUR holes before he paints. I know that in a lot of areas, the painter is expected to fill the holes...however, my contention would be "Why would you trust someone else to do that?" If he does a crappy job, it's a reflection on your work as well as his.

Just my .02 worth, but I'm not trusting my work to anyone else.
I agree Ive trusted painters to caulk and putty my work in the past and have been disapointed. Lately on all my paintgrade moulding jobs I prepaint all the moulding before install. After install I caulk and putty ,lightweight works fine and if you aplly it right it doesnt need to be sanded and it doesnt shrink . polyseamseal or dap 230 for caulk , I never caulk nailholes. Then i go over it with the a coat of paint again. Comes out great.
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I would totally agree WRT durabond & painted surfaces. Prime durabond first though..

WRT wood a millwork sub always said a little bit of wood dust (from the wood your working with and glue works great. You can even stain it. I'm not sure of the dust to glue ratio but it seems to work from what I've seen.

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dust to glu ratio...just enough glue to make it workable, like the consistency of wood putty
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Sure, slap it up, bang it full of holes and then HOPE the painter is going to do a good job of filling YOUR holes before he paints. I know that in a lot of areas, the painter is expected to fill the holes...however, my contention would be "Why would you trust someone else to do that?" If he does a crappy job, it's a reflection on your work as well as his.

Just my .02 worth, but I'm not trusting my work to anyone else.

Didn't see your post until I saw it quoted but why on earth would you slap

up trim. Why would you bang it full of holes? All of your work should look

good with or without paint. Or did I learn differently than you?

I also use good painters, I am good at alot of things, painting is not one of

them.

Thats just my .02 cents Chad
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What I would suggest since we do alot of high end trim, is just a simple painters putty. The painter simply has a palm sized amount in his hand and it is applied with his index finger. Be sure to try and use a Benjamin Moore product..We love their products.

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