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Old 03-15-2011, 07:44 AM   #141
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those harbor freight stands actually work pretty well. I ordered 4 of them.
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I got burned this spring on a basement by a drywall contractor.

I had the HO convinced that dust could be managed with my fan. In fact it was - major demo, framing, concrete cutting/mixing, no problem.

Then the drywallers came along. They started on Fri but did not finish. I told them explicitly to turn the fan on Saturday to help with the dust. I even told the HO to do it. No one did. The HO came down and asked if they were going to turn the fan on. "No, it's not necessary." HO believed them.

Guess what?! Dust ALL over the main floor.

Pissed me off to say the least. These drywallers were used to doing brand new construction in new homes where dust isnt really a concern for them. Bah.
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Carpet mask will work ok on stairs, but I usually vacuum the stairs really good first, then take my time putting the carpet mask down so as to tuck it into the corners really well.
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a dust free remodel doesnt exist! especially when drywall is involved. Whenever I order drywall, I also order 2 boxes of 2 mil clear plastic to go over EVERYTHING.

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For bigger projects we build a friction fit, temp 2x wall with sill seal behind the 2x's to protect the walls, ceiling and floor and then we staple 4 mil poly to the 2x's and then run lath strips around the sides to secure the poly and add a zipper door. Works well and doesn't need to be contently fixed and re sealed. For the stairs we lay down a runner and screw through lath strips into the corner of the tread and riser.
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I have been using a dust collector that they use in a wood shop this machine moves 1500 cubic feet per minute, I can leave a job knowing that all our dust was contained and the rest of the house remained dust free. I have been using this system for 15 years, I could show the EPA how to contain lead paint dust.
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Plastic walls with zippers for doors. We start out on top of Ram Board and work up.

The Bedroom Entry

Here in Vancouver we set up these way for almost every job. The renovations that is...

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Your zip wall looks alot better than mine...


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I have read thru every single post on this site and I am so confused that no one has mentioned the Dustless Technologies Wet/Dry Vacs??!! These things are great, and can be found on Amazon for under $300! They are so good you don't even have to use drop cloths or the zipwalls everyone is talking about. They are the best point of origin system I have found, and the best vac I have found at going straight from dry to wet without messing the filter up. They have a HEPA certified vac too, cant recommend it enough!! Here is a photo of one of them:
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Has anyone else tried a dustless vac like above photo? Any thoughts, just wondering what other contractors, or renovation experts think?? I know when I find a really good product I like to really get the word out!
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I like that for controlling spot-messes - or cleaning up. But nothing beats full containment and air evacuation. I can`t see a vaccuum beating that.

I must admit though, I`m sick of changing filters on my rigid shop vac every time the drywall bag gives out, or my guys suck up a whack of dw dust without the liners... I`ll chk this thing out.

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Plastic Zip Walls.

Zipper Doors

Ram Board

Large Fan

and Hepa Filters are keys for dustless renovations

You can make a renovation dustless and we often leave a clients home cleaner when we are done a renovation than when we started.

It's taken the care and the time to do all the steps. Changing out poly. Cleaning the filters. Repairing holes in plastic wall. But the biggest thing to monitor is the air flow from inside the job site.

One day having the window open in the "Bubble" helps and with say a kitchen window open a crack helps bring air through the home and out the window in the "Bubble". The next day or even after lunch the wind can change and the fresh air window is actuallly pushing on the "Bubble".

We monitor the poly like a sailor watching his sails. If the sail is pushing us into the non-bubble zone we drop the tools and try a few more options. If the sail is pushing into the work zone that is ideal.

Tying a large fan over a window really helps to create negative pressure in a "Bubble".

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Plastic Zip Walls.

Zipper Doors

Ram Board

Large Fan

and Hepa Filters are keys for dustless renovations

You can make a renovation dustless and we often leave a clients home cleaner when we are done a renovation than when we started.

It's taken the care and the time to do all the steps. Changing out poly. Cleaning the filters. Repairing holes in plastic wall. But the biggest thing to monitor is the air flow from inside the job site.

One day having the window open in the "Bubble" helps and with say a kitchen window open a crack helps bring air through the home and out the window in the "Bubble". The next day or even after lunch the wind can change and the fresh air window is actuallly pushing on the "Bubble".

We monitor the poly like a sailor watching his sails. If the sail is pushing us into the non-bubble zone we drop the tools and try a few more options. If the sail is pushing into the work zone that is ideal.

Tying a large fan over a window really helps to create negative pressure in a "Bubble".

JW
Jdub, I agree with all but the open window and large fan.

Since I was trained years ago in abatement(I know RRP & dust free isn't the same) it kinda was drilled into me not to open windows or use fans. The idea of having complete control in containment is paramount. The variable of outdoor wind direction is not controllable therefore should be avoided. Now I agree with ya that you can create great neg air by what your doing, it's just that it's not controllable and if you are doing abatement, if the wind changes directions you can contaminate the whole house.

You are way ahead of 90% of the remodelers in this town at least as most don't do 1/2 of what you are doing. Your site looks A+.

I just have been taught to eliminate all variables if possible in containment or "the bubble" as you call it and to me open windows are a no no. But that's just my .02.
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Paulie - love the fan.

What is one of those worth?

I have tried renting them before but the ones I have been renting stink. Not in function but in smell.

That would be much easier.

Way to raise the bar.

Here is my version of your rig;
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You the man.

Love ingenuity!!
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I have read thru every single post on this site and I am so confused that no one has mentioned the Dustless Technologies Wet/Dry Vacs??!! These things are great, and can be found on Amazon for under $300! They are so good you don't even have to use drop cloths or the zipwalls everyone is talking about. They are the best point of origin system I have found, and the best vac I have found at going straight from dry to wet without messing the filter up. They have a HEPA certified vac too, cant recommend it enough!! Here is a photo of one of them:
I had the hepa version of that vac. It did work very well going from wet to dry and it was a good price but it had one major issue. No anti static hose. All the dust stuck to the hose and I would get static shocks from it about every 5 seconds when it was being used. Took it back and got a festool after some recommendations and didn't look back. The festool vacs are far far better than the dustless tech vacs and ain't much more money either.
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Paulie - love the fan.

What is one of those worth?

I have tried renting them before but the ones I have been renting stink. Not in function but in smell.

That would be much easier.

Way to raise the bar.

Here is my version of your rig;
That's what I do but have a dual fan setup and a single fan for different job types. You can buy fans with a dust sock that goes on the end of the hose. They ain't cheap but they work very well. We used to use them when cutting out concrete for heating pipes. They can move some arius amounts of air.


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Ok now that fan must've garnered you a few jokes!

I try to sell the HO on dust free remodelling IN the house - not outside the house as well! ;-)
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Ok now that fan must've garnered you a few jokes!

I try to sell the HO on dust free remodelling IN the house - not outside the house as well! ;-)
Ours was about 1/4th the size of that one above but the best thing is the fan and filter sock are left outside and you just pipe it up with the flexy duct to where ever your working. You could cut a chase about 8th away from the duct and it would still suck it all into it. They ain't cheap though.
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I have something pretty similar - it`s 3400 cfm, 12 inch hose - I try to have it outside, but the hoses are only 25 feet long and pretty bulky. Not a great solution for winter either, it sucks ALL the warm air out of the house I usually put it in a window where I`m working and cut a peice of hardboard around to fit the window frame.

I tell people that it`s the compromise - dust free or lower heating bill. I don`t have any form of sock on it to collect the dust blown outside though. That`s a nice option to have.

Mine was used, it`s loud and cost me about 5 bills for one 25`hose and the blower. I wouldnt mind getting a second hose.

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